[Starseed]

Impaler - great signature!

European opinions - in general, I think you are all a little harsh with your opinions on the States (as we Canadians call them) because many of you haven't visited the country, much like most americans haven't set foot outside their own country. You do have an oversimplified impression of what the States are really like though - probably similarly to my impression of places I haven't visited in person.

Duckman2 - nice post, I think you got a lot of it right there.

-mt



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[faustgfx]

i base my opinion on america on the americans i deal with on irc/icq. especially the ones like [ahem] just light the fire.



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[egerie]

The most obnoxious people are the one you're going to notice first... They stand out from the croud. The "good" people go unoticed.
It's easy to jump to conclusions based on that..
But dang it's funny sometimes As long as you don't go bash on people !

Location : Le Louvre - Helenist Period Greek Sculptures.

The cast : 4 ...persons wearing full "Atlanta" gear (Olympic caps/t-shirt.)Daddy, Mommy and the kids.
Mommy, looking at The Discobol and then addressing the kids with a very strong southern (?) accent : "Now remember kids, those were made when JEEEEZUS was aliiive."

I had to run in another direction and rehearse my quantitative method notes not to start ROTFLing.. Wuuh huu boy did that make my visit worth while

-ege
P.S.: Now remember kids, play nice or aunt egerie will come BITE YOUR ASS OFF. chomp

[Starseed]

Ok, I have to say it now that you brought up the southern accent. There is no other accent in the world that speaks to me of such outright ignorance and stupidity than the southern accent. I very well know that there are many southerners who are normal or of above-average intelligence. I'm sure there are a lot of good people who have that accent.

But until the day I die, I'm sure, I will have the same knee-jerk reaction to a southern accent - the above bold text. I can't believe a people can let themselves sound like such slack-jawed lazy bums.

No offense to southerners, but this is my deeply conditioned reaction . . . actually, i think its my unconditional response. It's too visceral.

-mt

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[::Dino::]

I would just like to step in and say that I totally F#%@ing agree with DeadlySCSI(sp?). People are too busy worrying about their petty problems and trying to either compete with everyone else or just slack their way through life that they never take a moment to realize that they're just wasting their lives, accomplishing nothing. We could do so much if we people would get over our petty obsessions with money and material things and put our time and effort into what really matters...bettering the lives of our fellow man. There is a balance to everything, the richer Bill Gates gets the more children die in third world countries...Now that isn't to say I'm blaming Bill Gates for poverty, but there wouldn't be any rich people without the poor. The scales continue to tip farther and farther, and society as a whole will continue to suffer more and more...It may be too late to change anything now, but we could be doing so much more, discovering entirely new and wonderful things...and at the risk of sounding corny, be at peace. But of course that would never happen--It's all about money now. Sometimes I think the reason they haven't found a cure for any diseases since polio is because it's profitable. They'd rather sell thousands of bottles of advil or tylenol 3(sp?) to kill the pain, then one cure. Whatever...The moral of the rant--The World is run by a bunch of pricks

And yes Toronto is a gorgeous city...so is Vancouver

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[A.Buttle]

Ben Barker, I'm pushing for the "Beer and Strippers" Generation! Go USE! Oi!!

I'm just kidding...... Or am I?

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[Jezebel]

"But until the day I die, I'm sure, I will have the same knee-jerk reaction to a southern accent - the above bold text. I can't believe a people can let themselves sound like such slack-jawed lazy bums.

No offense to southerners, but this is my deeply conditioned reaction . . . actually, i think its my unconditional response. It's too
visceral."


I'm a southerner

And those stupid accents you hear on tv are drawn out and fake. Hear a girl with a real southern accent and you'll probably melt in your shoes. They don't sound slow and stupid, they sound sweet and innocent.

I have absolutely no trace of a southern accent though, but I know plenty of people who do. And it's not like you can pick where you are born and pick what your accent sounds like anyway. It's sad that you will let something as trivial as an accent play such a significant role in your opinion on a person. :/

Ah well... my 2 cents.

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[nova]

Yeah, both my parents were born in Argentina, which gives me a biased view towards America. It's interesting, though. My observations are further confirmed by their views. My dad, who is half-russian, i might add, says that if you go to any other country, that country's people have a fixed set of social 'views', and if you don't fit in those views or fall against them, you're made fun of or something. Here in America, everyone is accepted, the country is pretty much completely liberal, and no one is more or less forced to improve their ways.
People here are generally lazy, too. There's so much work avaliable, so many Safeways and Taco Bells that people take things for granted.

I dunno, my .5 cents on the matter. Of course, i'm speaking very generally.. i like it here, but if i had the chance and a good reason, i'd move somewhere else. Hm. Spain sounds good.

Everybody go download Sky by Sonique.. and turn it up. Great song. And while you're at it, nab Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds, Pixies - Where is my Mind and Parasite Eve - UB. Eh, just something for yous guys.




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[faustgfx]

u.f.orb overally is much better stuff.



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[Starseed]

Jez, I didn't mean for that post to denegrate southerners, but instead show my complete bewilderment with how an accent like that could evolve. It just completely rubs me the wrong way. And I don't not like southerners for it, as people, but I can't stand listening to them speak (the ones with the exteme accent) And I'm sure some of them do have it because I've seen them on the news. Btw, my mom was born in Arkansas so I haven't a foot to stand on if I were to actually denegrate them as people.

That southern trace in the to-be first-lady is going to bug me for the next 4 years . . . joy. I just hope she isn't as vocal as Hilary . . . I don't think she will be.

-mt

PS. Vancouver is beautiful indeed. I lived in London (ON) and visited Toronto. All of southern Ontario is gorgeous. Vancouver has milder weather, ocean, and mountains and world class skiing, at the cost of perpetual rain (you get used to it). I live in Vancouver now, btw, I'm not pulling this out of my rear-orifice. I also live 16 blocks from the big-ol' US of A.

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[Giant Hamster]

Please let this post die..there is no need for disussion. if you want to talk about french food or teachers make a new post about it.

[NexxThe]

Guys, My only sugestion is - look up in a dictionary word "ethnocentrism" .

I live here for 2 years, moved from Russia, Moscow. What US really lack of - is fun. I know that some people say that there are only bustards live here, I won't agree with them, I have so many good friends here (however most of them moved here from other countries, hmm...)

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[Shadowman]

I can't beleve I wasted my time reading this shit......I live in New Jersey USA near New York USA and most people around here are from other countries.

[skyediver]

quote:

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Originally posted by [Shizo]:
PS: Every African-American person in America has a 'cousin' and is in some kind of gang YO!! IT'S MAH COUSIN!

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I resent that. I admit I don't have many black friends and I can't even talk black when I try, but your post was a shitload full of broad generalizations and I always hate it when people try to pidgeonhole everything into categories (ie. EVERYONE in x-racial/social/religious group ALWAYS do x-things). Then again, I have eleven cousins... not counting distant ones... o.0

Most of the Americans here have done a decent job of defending themselves, heh. I'm not the most patriotic person around, mind you, but being in America does in FACT beat living in some third-world country or some country that's always at war. War sucks. But atop the long list of things I hate about the US the one at the top would definitely be our new president. I just heard on the news yesterday that if he isn't careful there's a dangerous possiblilty of serious conflict with China (grumble) What an asswad he is, doesn't give shit about foreign policy.

And I hear he's going to do for the US what he did for Texas.

If my mum gets the job she's working for, my family is moving to Canada. =P

[Bradford]

as if gore could have done any better. please, he's not even president yet and your already going off.

even though i hate both, i wouldn't make assumptions so soon.

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[FaithInChaos]

i like how out of the 80 executions this year nationwide, texas is responsible for 41 of them. bush sure does like the killing.

ok, i have a girlfriend who is sort of a cream color and her mom is black; her mom doesnt like me because i am white. well maybe the fact that im having sex with her daughter is the real reason she dislikes me...
but, no i really dont understand the gang thing. but i dont understand the rich white kid shooting spree thing either.
i cant relate to what its like being black, i dont try to, i dont want to; but sometimes in the shower i look down and i think maybe i am black.

[skyediver]

I suppose those words are coming from a damn yankee stuck in the south, Bradford. Living in the most polluted city in the United States can do that to a girl (along with the mild asthma). I really do see Bush as a guy who is becoming president for the wrong reasons. I mean, c'mon, does he really want to do it to make our country a better place? Or to be one of the most powerful people in the world? I mean yeah, I know Gore isn't much better, but I disagree with Bush's stand on the issues on almost all fronts. He seems like a nice guy, but... not a good president. No sir.

Belive me Bradford, I did a ten page research paper on the election last semester-- including charts, graphs, and diagrams. I was a very angry person afterward, let me tell you... Nader was a bit of comic relief though
. I would have voted for him. =)

Heheh, that's nice to know, Faith In Chaos... o.0 I can't entirely relate to being black myself (ironic, huh?), I'm just too out there. I run into bigots and such once in a blue moon (moreso since moving to Texas), but that's sadly, more or less a given. I think maybe it could the blue hair, too. Heh.

[sacrelicious]

Funny MasterCard parody...

-Fanatic rent-a-mob in Miami: $2 million.
-5 Supreme Court justices beholden to Satan: $15 million.
-Installing an unqualified doofus shit-weasel as President despite the majority opinion of America:

PRICELESS.


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[Blakk]

Yo! I went out with my cousin on our lunch brake today and we be haven Burger King chicken sandwiches Yo!
Yo! That shit is nasty yo I just stick to KFC fo next time. Yo it's mo better yo!

[sacrelicious]

There are no cats in America, and the streets are made of cheese! There are no cats in America, so set your mind at ease!

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[Count Zero]

Been to America thrice. Most recently Albuquerque, New Mexico about a month ago. Loved it.
Like any country, America has good points and bad points. Bad (or the worst) would be the over-commercialized TV that disregards the external world completely due to ratings (think "news") Good would be the majority of people I met. As a people in general, Americans are sociable and quite nice. Easy to get to know people in America, way easier than in Finland.
Over all, I would have to say that I like America.
PS. America is sexually repressed.

[Freddio]

"Only in America" how many ppl use that phrase ?


in every country you get 5% of the population who are total ignorant rejects.

Now there are a hell of a lot of rejects in America. Im not really sure how people many there are.. I asked 4 americans and they couldnt even tell me. Anyway I think there is about 150+ million anyway 5% of that is like over 7 million total rejects who live in America..
and they are all the fat, ugly, feral, yocals who appear on Jerry Springer.
so theres only like less than a Million total rejects living here in Australia


My brother is in Florida right now working in Dysney World, or land I dunno... he says that there is absolutely no world news what so ever.. Everything is so insular. atleast 1/4 of our nightly news is world based.



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[Freddio]

BUt America would be a great place to live for a while... I am highly interested in it

[FaithInChaos]

ive lived in australia, its just as bad there as it is in the u.s.


premise - the british had over crowded prisons
premise - they shipped all the criminals to australia
premise - most people consider criminals rejects
conclusion - most people consider australians rejects

[Ben Barker]

That's why I watch the BBC's ITN news. Half of it is about America anyway, and only the important stuff. So they leave out all that crap like what George W. Bush ate for breakfast, or that Bill Clinton has a basal cell carcinoma on his back, or blah blah blah blah blah.
The BBC might report massive earthquakes and mudslides in S. America, and the American news didn't even MENTION it! They are too busy blabbering about how the new Attorney General maybe-might-surely-could be a racist.

I've also noticed how the BBC reports disproportionaly on Australia and India. Keeping tabs on the colonies, eh?

[FaithInChaos]

heh...the bbc is where i go for news too

i think i read somewhere that one of the top censored news stories last year (in the u.s.): was that international news coverage has been scaled back.

ashcroft probably crucifies himself on a cross in his backyard for fun...
people elected a dead guy to a missouri senate seat, because they didnt want him in office. doesnt that mean anything?
plus, the guy thinks wearing condoms is the same thing as having an abortion.

thats really sad, cause that means i have allready performed two abortions today...maybe ill shoot for three, on with the killin

[Nex]

<American>what do you do?
<Me>I study nutrition science on the university here
<American>isnt it hard now?
<Me>why?
<American>I mean after the war..
<Me>?
<American>Are the schools not destroyed?
<Me>the war.. yeah right-

I guess he was talking about KOSOVO
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<American>so where are you from?
<Me>Austria, Europe
<American>so your mother tongue is english right?

How many countries in europe have english as mothertongue again..
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<Me>So what do you say to the current situation in California.
<American>What situation?
<Me>The brownouts.. electricity problems
<American>huh? I dont know what youre talking about.

sad that he doesnt know what happens beyond his borders -but even more sad that I know more about his own country although I dont care about it.

this should shed some light on: "you have to live in america to be able to judge it"

I dont say that all americans are dumb.
But the majority of those i know or met are not the sharpest knives in the drawer.

[Freddio]

quote:

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ive lived in australia, its just as bad there as it is in the u.s.

premise - the british had over crowded prisons
premise - they shipped all the criminals to australia
premise - most people consider criminals rejects
conclusion - most people consider australians rejects

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What an American stero typical view of Australians. I'll just go "pet" (pat) my Kangaroo. YOur in that 5% i was talking about. But the other 95% im sorry you have to live with that 5%..

And I can obviously tell that you didnt live in Australia at all.

[Freddio]

also you fool you realise there werent that many convicts and the majority of the population after the 1700s were settlers from th UK. The same place where you Americans came from.

I would just look at the crime rate of our two countries today and compare them.

[FaithInChaos]

it was a joke...no sense of humor?

i did live in australia for many years. i can say from experiance that the people of australia are as much racist, intolerant, and ignorant as any other country.

i will say though; in australia (nsw, sydney) i was repeadly attacked by mob numbers in the school yard, because i was a "yankee." i would stand there like an idiot trying to fight back, but i always got my ass kicked cause it was normally 1 on 20.
it wasnt just me who was singled out either, it was anyone who wasnt a native australian.
from my point of view (and experiance) australia has a problem with racism. the only (good) friends i made while living there were other foreigners; from poland, czech, china, japan ect...
when i went back to the u.s. no one attacked me, no one made fun of my accent, no one cared. well the girls liked it