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SplitSoul
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 5:06 am     Reply with quote
No, actually I haven't slept tonight. Or the night before that.

Good night/afternoon/whatever.

-Split
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 5:35 am     Reply with quote
I'm not really big on this type of art and on most part I agree with Visigoth, so I won't critique it. I think it is a cheap ploy to draw attention. The thing that I hate most about this thread is the topic. So, you are angry at the world.. big deal. Suck it up butter cup. Keep in mind that we have children on this forum that come here to learn. I can just imagine if a parent looked over and saw this topic. I'm not even religious and it offends me.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 5:37 am     Reply with quote
Give it to me baby, uh-huuhhh uh-huuuh!

/me shakes his booty

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 5:45 am     Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chapel:
So, you are angry at the world.. big deal.


Actually, no. I'll repeat myself (again): The title of the thread are lyrics from the song that inspired my work. And if you don't care, why even bother replying? Really, why?

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Originally posted by Chapel:
I'm not even religious and it offends me.


And I know religious people that didn't get offended by the topic, mainly because they know they are lyrics from a song. But they really don't care.

And like galen said, it's my opinion on religion. Deal with it.

And parents seeing this? Yeah, great. What about all the swearing from the flamers? I find that to be much, much worse.

-Split
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 5:48 am     Reply with quote
Although i don't particularly like his piece, I don't have anything against him. This has become too personal and these attacks degrade the integrity of the board. A flaming critique, well fine, but personal attacks repeated over and over really disgust me. A little intuition and some intelligence would help these matters, but alas, we have found neither. I suggest Dhab closes this thread.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 5:50 am     Reply with quote
Ofcourse. Its from a song. That makes it completely moot by default.

I guess ill go shoot up a supermarket now with Marilyn Manson in my diskman.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 5:55 am     Reply with quote
Hey, at least he�s getting m4d r3plyZ!

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 6:44 am     Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by faustgfx:
look at it this way, you get more replies than i do in a year.



Hmmm, this truth is quite sadening.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 7:00 am     Reply with quote
frost, it's okay, i get twice the hate towards me :>



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 7:03 am     Reply with quote
I replied because I feel your topic is inappropriate for this forum. While I was at it I figured I would throw in my opinion for free.

Akolyte: I hope Dhab does too.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 7:15 am     Reply with quote
Even if people think this piece is inappropriate in this forum i don't think it's a reason to be rude.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 7:16 am     Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Spitfire:
Ofcourse. Its from a song. That makes it completely moot by default.

I guess ill go shoot up a supermarket now with Marilyn Manson in my diskman.



You are such a bitter little boy, Spitfire. I never asked that you replied with your personal attacks. I couldn't less about them, really, it's just that they turned this thread into a regular flame-war.

I'm sorry that you find the title offensive, and I'm sorry that you are unable to ignore those 8 little words on your monitor. And I'm sorry that you're a victim of Tourette's syndrome, I really am.

And good luck in shooting up that supermarket, big guy.

-Split

[This message has been edited by SplitSoul (edited December 18, 2000).]
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 7:31 am     Reply with quote
micke wrote: Even if people think this piece is inappropriate in this forum i don't think it's a reason to be rude.

I back that 100 percent.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 7:47 am     Reply with quote
I think that this flame war is nonsense.
My crits:
1- The image isn't clear and there are no composition lines at all.
2- The title is rude even if it is a song title(that's not a acceptable reason)

I think Dhab should close the thread. If there are no criticism this thread has no purpose.

-Ragnarok
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 7:52 am     Reply with quote
Am i speaking a dead language? It doesnt really penetrate your cognitive hemisphere that what i find offensive is that you call 5 shitty textures and the word fuck "art", does it? I dont give half a rats ass how you call your threads.



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 8:05 am     Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Spitfire:
Am i speaking a dead language? It doesnt really penetrate your cognitive hemisphere that what i find offensive is that you call 5 shitty textures and the word fuck "art", does it? I dont give half a rats ass how you call your threads.



Then you don't like it. Do I care? No.

Why do you make such a big deal out of it? You have spent nearly a whole day in here. For what? Boosting your pathetic, little ego, by throwing childish insults my way?

-Split
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 8:15 am     Reply with quote
I can quote you asking me to (since you seem to be so fond of quoting) :

quote:
You keep those funny remarks a-coming, big guy.
-Split




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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 8:26 am     Reply with quote
Yeah, the funny remarks.

-Split
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 9:23 am     Reply with quote
ACK !
Dhabih, please close this thread, nothing constructive is coming out of it..
And we dont need more flaming on the forums.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 9:32 am     Reply with quote
Hmm, this is a rather immature discussion I would say. I think the name of the topic is rather childish, probably that causes a lot of stupid discussion ?!? But, shouldn't people be allowed to post whatever they want, though it's not catigorised as the typical "digital-drawing" type of picture, as long as it is something visually, since there's no certain rules of what to post in here (which I'm glad of)
spitfire & splitsoul why don't you keep the rest of your shit-slamming over mail ?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 10:38 am     Reply with quote
I think it looks good, ... hey do I see a concrete wall with barbed wire in the background there??

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 10:39 am     Reply with quote
is it really necessary to have that kind of a topic? personally i find it not only obscene, but childish, and offensive. how less tasteful can you get?

not only that but the image is about just as creative.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 10:47 am     Reply with quote
I don't care if he just added textures and effects to a picture or whatever Split has done. And it doesn't depend on how he made it if it looks good then it looks good.

The title is a bit harsh but I think that has also nothing to do with the artwork, does it?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 10:49 am     Reply with quote
You know its bad when you offend synj.

joachim: haha

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 11:04 am     Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Spitfire:
Please. Show this to an Art Director. Watch him for 3 hours as he laughs himself an aneurysm.


ugh, you sound JUST like this teacher i had...EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN THING anyone did he would ask them, and then the class "would you show it to an art director?" my response was always "yes", because why the hell not???? who cares if its good, bad, or whatever, i would HOPE that this art director would not be a total ass and at least tell me what needed work, and what i should improve on rather than "laughing himself into an aneurysm"

i absolutely love it when art pisses people off...because if you went through life doing the same things, seeing the same things, then what fun is it?? people need their shit stirred up once in awhile...otherwise the result is complacency and laziness of the mind...


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the morning rain clouds up my window and I can't see at all
And even if I could it'd all be grey, but your picture on my wall
it reminds me that it's not so bad
it's not so bad
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 11:09 am     Reply with quote
also, it's things like this that show the TRUE colors of a forum isn't it?? take one thing that doesn't fit into the majority's regimented ideals about art, and you're gonna get every ass and his brother in here trying to get you to take it down, stop doing it, etc etc.

anyone remember any art history?? remember when the impressionists first starting doing their work?? people were so cemented into the renaissance styles of art they HATED anything impressionistic...touted it as not being art...

and what's happening here??? the exact same thing.

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My tea's gone cold,I'm wondering why I got out of bed at all
the morning rain clouds up my window and I can't see at all
And even if I could it'd all be grey, but your picture on my wall
it reminds me that it's not so bad
it's not so bad
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 11:10 am     Reply with quote
*AMEN*

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2000 12:23 am     Reply with quote
Personally I dont see how this pic and its topic are any different than the guy who suspended a crucifix in a bottle of urine. Is that art?? I guess to him and the art gallery director that displayed it, it was.

probly took him about 30 seconds to pee in the jar and another 30 seconds to put the crucifix in it.

made a months worth of controversy.

My point is; to him, and a select few others, this is art. Do I agree? Not even slightly, but if I got offended at everyone who insults Jesus or takes an easy way to accomplish an artistic goal Id be alot more angry than I really need to be.

Dont get me wrong, Im not defending Splitsoul for this graphic. I dont like it much myself, and I really Dont like the topic. Yes I do think its childish. But I guess In todays world where do we really draw the line as to what 'ART' is?

There are ALOT of very respectable artists here and we all have our different opinions. thats life.

sorry if some of you dont agree.

Awe

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2000 12:37 am     Reply with quote
I haven't read the the whole thread...but what I have read mainly focuses on the song/thread's title. The song is about a girl named Judith who wont listen to anyone about anything.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2000 12:42 am     Reply with quote
Its art to him, and certainly its art to me. I like it, even if you don't. I have my own views about Gods, and they're my own, but I won't post it because its just as controversal. Thats life.

-kardis

By the way, whats the difference with having vulgarity on the title? And having vulgarity in a thread? Its all the same to me. As for parents.. pfft.. lets not get into that.
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