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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 3:28 am     Reply with quote
hey everyone. in the process of having a leo vs shredder piece and would love to hear any comment whatsoever on it. http://www.adamcline.com/home/tmntpencil.jpg Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 8:03 am     Reply with quote
erm the sword looks a little too curved on his back..
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 6:52 pm     Reply with quote
the curve of the sword is to help the composition, i agree it does look a tad bit odd, but i like it. i definently will color this, it just will be a while til i get the finished pencils then the inks done. thanks guys for your comments
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 11:22 pm     Reply with quote
Love the background you should go for coloring it
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2002 2:07 pm     Reply with quote
Only complaint, he doesn't look cut up enough. I see the cuts and stuff, and granted i only watch TMNT in the watered down cartoons, but i would think shredder would do much more damage in a one-on-one fight, especially with how defeated leo looks.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2002 8:11 pm     Reply with quote
thats a good point. im goin to try to make my colors bring out leo's pain.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2002 9:32 pm     Reply with quote
thanks for all your comments guys. i revised the rough pencils and corrected a couple things like the candles, the sword holder, shredder, shadows, and other lil tid bits. check it out and let me know how ya like it http://www.adamcline.com/home/tmntpencil2.jpg thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2002 12:51 am     Reply with quote
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Originally posted by vegeta�ONAC:
the sword holder

for future ref: its called a scabbard

much better
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2002 1:46 am     Reply with quote
yeah thanks
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2002 2:00 pm     Reply with quote
Uhm, ok I havent seen Turtles in a long time... but I do not remember Shredders mask looking like that.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2002 9:48 pm     Reply with quote
look for some reference pics on the net, plus my shredder has some of my own features to him.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2002 6:11 am     Reply with quote
I wasn't pleased with how the scan of the final pencils went so I'm not posting it but if you really wanna see it you can go to the update homepage at http://www.adamcline.com . ^_^ i just finished the inks in one day today! im pretty impressed with myself heh. here they are http://www.adamcline.com/home/tmntink.jpg im still wondering if i should ink the stainless glass parts...let me know what yall think, thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2002 7:34 am     Reply with quote
I'm kinda confused to what's going on in that picture. Looks good though, just hard to figure out the 'story' behind it.

Reminds me of something I stopped working on a while ago:

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2002 3:24 pm     Reply with quote
thanks for your comment. some stuff does look lost now but will become clear when everythings colored. nice work ya got there, kinda gets lost near shredders legs though.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2002 6:55 am     Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2002 5:06 pm     Reply with quote
I'm looking forward to seeing this colored.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2002 6:42 pm     Reply with quote
thanks for puttin a picture in my thread bob. Im pretty anxious myself Dark, doing the color studies right now, so stay tuned
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 6:29 pm     Reply with quote
IMHO, Leo is way too large and centered, he takes up the whole piece. Everything else fades into the background, and the katanas break up the composition too much and drag the eye off of the page.

Only seeing half of Leo makes it look very unfinished...for a middle closeup, just the head and shoulders is a good stopping point. I'd either back the view out to see all of Leo, or close it way in and only see his face and a hint of shoulder.

The candles being in the middle to foreground flatten the piece quite a bit. The other sword entering from the left makes no sense at all, the viewer has no idea where it's coming from and it also drags the eye away.

IMHO, this begs to be done from an extreme high or low POV, so one could see all of Leo in a pool of his own blood as Shredder calmly walks away.

I know, you'd have to completely redo it if you listened to me, but for future reference.

Yeah, I'm feeling wordy tonight.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 7:12 pm     Reply with quote
yes that would be a whole new piece and no way am i doing that. I revised the inks http://www.adamcline.com/home/tmntink2.jpg
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2002 4:46 am     Reply with quote
sorry for the delay but the day has finally come! here is the final TMNT piece http://www.adamcline.com/fin2002/tmnt02.htm i hope you guys like it cuz it sure whooped my ass!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2002 7:26 pm     Reply with quote
Ah, I was wondering if you ever got around to this.
The colors are nice, but the lighting seems a little weird to me. Like it should be casting some directional shadows, or the contrast should be sharper. But to each his own.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2002 9:03 pm     Reply with quote
yup ive been working on this almost non-stop, most of my time went into color studies and also tryin to revise the inks according to some comments received. i feel the shadows should have less contrast like in this piece due to most of the light coming from candles. But candles are strange, they can flicker and whatnot and produce various forms of shadows. I did receive one comment from another forum today which was really good. She told me about shredders shadow and how it should be more elongated stretching further downwards, i feel she had a good point and i may fix that but i cant right now. thanks for your comments Smile
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