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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 12:41 pm     Reply with quote
Hi, this pic is a couple of years old, made when I still took time to finish my pictures (the speedpaint thread put an end to that Very Happy ). I like the concept, and when I look at it now I think there's room for improvements, but the thing is that I worked on the pic for a long time, so now when I try to improve things, I feel that I can't really see all the problems. So I put it here to hopefully get a fresh view on it from you. Thanks.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:50 am     Reply with quote
The first thing I would say is that the characters and the sword look cartoony. Try adding more "texture" to it. The next question I have for you is, Why are your mountains orange? If this is an early morning shot, then shouldnt the grass and the rock be more orange too?
The image seems a bit over blured, and half the image looks like it is in fog....
And lastly, your mountains look a bit too smooth.

This was constructive criticism, please dont take it the wrong way. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:36 am     Reply with quote
Hi Yarik, thanks for the reply. That's just about what I needed to hear. I can see everything you say, and a bunch more problems. Sometimes I just need a "kick start" so I can get "above" the image and not be so involved with it.
I'm going to try to remake this sometime, when I have motivation.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 7:56 am     Reply with quote
hmm... made a try to get the values&colors right. The reason that the mountains are reddish is that I wanted a contrast between the "elf-land" and the "orc-land" but I'm not sure how to accomplish that...

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 4:25 am     Reply with quote
I like the idea of the contrasting colours to distinguish. I can remember the effect from LOTR where the Mt Doom scene's apart from the lava had a great feel. With the elf, the shape of the face needs work. The mouth in particular is off to one side. I know its early in the piece, so I'm jumping the gun a bit there. I'm not sure why the sword is placed like that, it seems quite odd.

Overall, I like the concept. The scene in the first pic works well. The blurriness is a bit distracting. Is that a style your going for? You need to be a bit more definite with some of your brush strokes. Don't be afraid to at least try leaving some sharp, its the digital meduim afterall and ctrl-z is never far away. Smile My concern is because a lot of the edges / silhouettes in most artwork is where a lot of visual information lies. Removing this makes it difficult for an observer to understand the shapes and forms, which is a useful effect when intended but problematic when its not. I hope that is useful. Great concept, I'd like to see it continue.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 8:27 am     Reply with quote
Thanks for the comment! Good remarks there.
The blurriness was my way to get things to look like they where in the distance Smile and in the mid-ground there is supposed to be some fog. I'll try to put more thought into the edges this time.
Working on an update, coming soon!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:06 am     Reply with quote
update.. Thinking of drawing it in B&W instead.. when i try to use colors with som kind of thought behind, I become such a coward Confused ...

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