[Gygaxis]

Probably about.... 15-18 hours on this, Trying to start into better habits in Photoshop, layer masks, that sorta thing. 70% (100% detail shots if anyone wants em, just ask)

<img src="http://bakanogaijin.codevault.org/IMAGES/OneWingedAngelsCG.jpg">

[Arc][Pello]

[Gygaxis]

Thanks Arc, I always forget which boards are UBB and which are HTML ^^;

[EviLToYLeT]

Both the girl and guy are rendered fantastically. One thing thats confusing me are the ... little spots under their lips. Might want to rethink the value of that - what it adds to the lip, and if nothing get rid of the thing

Anyway, the concept is great.. one-winged angels.. very lovely

[Gygaxis]

The spot is a carry over from the pencil sketch to emphasize the lip (the lineart for it is almost completely without shading)I guess it got over emphasized in shadowing on the CG. It's also been mentioned to me that the eyes on the girl should curve the opposite direction (eyelids that is) and that perhaps the clouds are over defined. I think I'll fix the eyes before I get this printed, and possibly de-emphasize that spot of shading under the lips

[Briareos]

the crappyness of this drawing overwhelms me

[Vesuvius]

Briarose, unless you know the artist (like jr), don't be an ass. With JR it's joking, with strangers it's trolling and being an asshole.

Maybe you know this person, in which case I'm out of line, but if not, try to temper your comments with something constructive.

[Torstein Nordstrand]

Briareos (Ben Neall) is just being an ass, he's making crappy stunts in several threads... he probably understands that one has to give people feedback on their level, not his own.

Gygaxis: I think you should spend as much time on the surroundings as you have spent on the figures, right now there is a clear imbalance between the two, and it hurts the picture. Make it more interesting, try picking up some cloud reference, should be easy finding some though www.google.com

Don't stop now, there is more you can do!

[Awetopsy]

He is done quite well.. she has a few issues.

1) her shoulders seem rather broad, even in the forced perspective. the left(our left) seems to be a bit large and almost dislocated. too far out.

2) her left arm(our right) seems to have a strange twist to it. its almost as if you have the bicep muscle all the way on top of the arm when it should be facing forward because of the position of the wrist.

3) I agree that the little spot under their chins is distracting. It doesnt get the point of the lip across clearly enough. It lokos more like the shadow you would expect to be under the nose.

4) she also got some big birthin' hips.

all in all a decent picture tho. keep working at it. Its looking pretty good.

[Gygaxis]

Allright everyone, thanks for the really good C&C's

I quested around through google, and finally ended up grabbing some cloud ref's off of Corbis, so I'm gonna see what I can do with that part of it.

Gonna tone the spots down way far, fix the overburnt bicep on the guy, mesh the bg/subjects better, get a little better shadowing near the hairline, fix the girls eyes. Is there anything I can do with the water? It doesn't quite seem to sit right in the picture right now, I'm thinking perhaps desaturating most of the darker part will make the characters contrast more with it, and perhaps decrease some of the focus from the background.

I'll be working on this later on today, should hopefully have results today or wednesday