Sijun Forums :: View topic - the good, bad and the fugly-time to clean house

Fred Flick Stone · Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2000 8:55 pm

I am moving in to my new place sorta still, well unpacking, and I came across an embarassing lot of images I did way back when. Here they are-as embarassing as this is , and painful toview myself, I thought you guys might get a kick at where I have kinda sorta come from, in a very, very small nutshell...enjoy, crits can come, but this is all old crap so I will never revisit it again...

This was done in 1994 for Youngblood, till I found out what a kook Rob Liefeld was, then I stopped working on it. Pencil and Brush and ink 11 x 17

Done for a clothing company in 1996. pen and ink, long before Big Daddy Rod had fonts, I had to hand do that chit...

Done for Gotcha sportswear 7 x 14 gouache

Shannon Dunn board graphic for lamar done in 1996 my first watercolor, and brush with ink mix, the original is 16 x 27

Done in brush and ink with ink wash. original is 4 x 20 for lamar snowboards in 1997

Joyride snowboard graphic comps done in 1996 markers scribbles

This I am working on now, I didnt finish the jeep yet. the planes I did in 30 minutes the jeep 1 hour and still counting gouache

I was art director for ride snowboards and I did all sorts of weird things for their catalogs. This I made a mucha esk wine menu, which actually served as a board tech page for each of the types of wood cores ride produced...done in 1995

This I just did for a practice painting. I am commisioned to do a vintage movie poster with Marylin Monroe, James Dean, and Betty Page. This was a 45 minute gouache sketch to show the client I can handle likenesses this one I posted for wildkat

The last two are charcoal sketches done in 1996, my first semester ever teaching. These were photo reference demos to show the students the use of photos for practice

Alright, I know there is a lot here, but not nearly as much as I have sitting on my floor at home right now, I just thought I would show you a bit of what I have done in the past so you can all get a laugh...

I am embarassed now, going to go...bye, bye

[This message has been edited by Fred Flick Stone (edited July 19, 2000).]

burn0ut · Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2000 9:17 pm

these are dope man

hehe i used to like rob liefeld when he did youngblood i had like all... 7 or somethin he did i forget heh. whys he sucha kook??

nice work, i like em all

Anthony · Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2000 9:24 pm

Hey, wait a sec...you forgot the fugly ones.

------------------
-Anthony
Carpe Carpem

Sedone · Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2000 9:46 pm

The charcoal pieces are great. Are those drawn on newsprint?

------------------
sedone's artfolio

Rinaldo · Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2000 12:54 am

Your going to have to try harder than that to get me going "man fred actuialy did suck at some point in time"

I like that art nouveau stuff (but that is purly my subjectivty)

Your comic book stuff from what I've seen is not quite up to scratch to your other Illustrations etc.
Do you have an opinion/rebuttal to this?

Besides the comic stuff though, you don't seem to be held down by any particular style/technique.
To my mind this is what Categorises a really good artist (I probably should say "Illustrator" to apese the gods) . there are plenty of guys out there who are baisicaly one trick ponies.

I like the Landscapes in the other thread btw.

Just a thought; How about posting a set of your drawings that Illustrate your developing skill level. Have you seen that page in Brom's book where he's got stuff from age 5 to 18 and stuff. Besides being rather amusing I think it might help a few people (me inccluded) with confidence. People get demoralised by how good others work is when they were just as bad at some point in time. seeing as the road to being good invlolves mainly years and years of practice. it is helpfull to know that your favorite artist was just as bad as you when they were your age. Or even just how long it took for the person to get to a particular skill level.

I know its a huge ask (not to mention damaging on the ego). And it assumes that you actuialy have the material.
But if it is possible, then what do you think?

This obviously applies to any other really good artists as well.

TeAnne · Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2000 3:34 am

Very very impressive. The MM is incredable. Thanks for showing them.

------------------
THE HIT LIST

quote:
Poets utter great and wise things which they do not themselves understand.
Plato (c. 427-347 B.C.), Greek philosopher.

SushiMaster · Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2000 6:06 am

Yeah, what Anthony said... where are the bad ones? I wanna see them! :-P

Daniel

Fred Flick Stone · Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2000 9:39 am

Rinaldo-I like what you said. Yes, the comic image is by far the weakest. I will post some of my new stuff. Forever with comics, I was trying to get some art style different from everyone elses, I have a long way to go, but I think that thinking in this vein has really helped me find my own hand. As I said, I will post some of the newer stuff when I get it scanned.

And yeah, if I can find a few things, I will post a time line deal...The problem with that though is every so often, I get really pissed at all the stuff I have to drag around with me when I have to move, and I heap it all together and have a bon fire. So, I don't know what I have left from my past, prior to working in the skateboard industry. One thing I do have that I never torched was my portfolio that got me accepted to art center with a full ride scholarship. My parents were so proud till I decided to take a sponsorship with a skateboard company instead...I will get those up sometime. But yeah, I will post a little time line dealio, I think it would be kinda fun now...
And thank you guys for talking kindly, I dont see what ya'll are seeing, but I appreciate that you see something good. Thank you thank you thank you...

WildMyth · Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2000 9:58 am

-Fred
You have a great variation in styles. I love your Mucha piece for the board tech page. I was wondering how people responded to the style of Mucha? Did they like it or did they think it was way to old of a style to actually appeal to younger people? I was wonder how well did the style fit in?
I like the last three the most of all the fine pieces you've shown. With all your lessons and teaching I would have never guessed you to have drawn any type of comic art. I think you, and Francis should team up, with the amount of knowledge and talent the two of you possess I bet you two could pull it off a great comic.

Dizzogg · Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2000 10:21 am

Simply put, you are a great artist Ron. Even your bad stuff is actually very good. I always look forward to viewing your stuff. It's very inspiring to see....

Makes me want to paint...

burn0ut · Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2000 10:32 am

wow id really like to see that portfolio that got u in art center fred!!! to see what lvl its at to get in there

Anthony · Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2000 11:05 pm

quote:
Originally posted by WildMyth:
I was wondering how people responded to the style of Mucha? Did they like it or did they think it was way to old of a style to actually appeal to younger people?

In my experience at least I've noted a mixed reaction to Mucha. I love him, but then all my favorite artists are old(he's the newest actually). I love the over-decoration, and the endless patterns. Some people think he's sort of passe, but then those people tend to be either A)Faux Upper Crust, or B)into dark stuff.

------------------
-Anthony
Carpe Carpem

Wildkat · Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2000 11:12 pm

Fabulous Fred!!!!
You found her!!!!
I love the pose too, has a nice feeling to it, very comfy.
It's fun looking through all these, thanks for providing us with such a variety to view...

I sure hope you will be able to let us have a peek at that movie poster when you are done...

Get all that stuff off the floor and scan us some more...

------------------
Kat