[Matthew]

yea it was purely Master-piece, very good.
I liked the explanation how they darkened the earth, kind of made me draw the lines to the original movie and have that as an explanation for the original Matrix movie.

Matthew

[Drew]

I was hoping they would explain the totally broken science by saying the machines were just fucked up and wanted to hold humans in some kind of mental prison. The whole "human battery" thing is ridiculous. Oh well, at least the animation is cool.

[linzi]

The Animatrix isn't fan fiction guys, it is part and one with the Wachowski brothers vision of the Matrix. I can back that up by the fact that they have written half of the animatrix and that warner brothers are publishing it so everything kinda has to be ok'd by them. The second renaissance was written by them and I believe follows 'the system' analogy, insofar as nobody is innocent and everybody wants control. Well, that's my view anyway - Good guys versus bad guys has always been (for me at least) a bit of boring juvenile brainless crap which trivialises any pursuit for justice within a story. The reverse mirror effect in the tale so far of who the good guys and bad guys are works really well because there is always an oppressed and those in power doing the oppressing. Dont let it spoil your taste for the films as Neo, Trinity and the gang are simply fighting for freedom and the robots are vicious and manipulative - which constitutes as evil, doesn't it?
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[Matthew]

And for a time it was good....

I kind of like the idea with human batteries, to keep the human calm and not revolting against the robots again they control them in a Matrix world.

linzi - I agree with your view-point there but as bad or evil, that should be the human all the time, I mean we constructed them and in a way humans are self-destructing.
And the explanation with "Program" is very cool. Once you know the truth you wanna go back and wished that you had never taken the red pill.

Matthew

[ebrian]

I think the first and the last one are disturbing and naive.
I love sfs, but this kind of sf just doesnt make sense in any way
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[[666]Flat]

Neat vids indeed. But way too cursory for my likings. You know, the point behind Matrix is basically the philosophy aspect of questioning reality and our perception of reality. It's an interesting matter in general, not because the creators of Matrix are asking questions that never have been raised -- I remember a friend telling me about a book that dealed with exactly the same theme as Matrix a long time before that flicker's been done. In a nutshell, it was all about some scientists who found out how to generate a perfect computer simulation which developed into a breeding ground for intelligent lifeforms. Things came outta control when one of that individuals of that simulation actually found out he's part of a simulation and tried to find out what's real and what's not and where the orgins of that virtual world lie. The story ends when the scientists themselves realize their own world's nothing but a frickin' simulation. And it has to end there, because there is now way to tell what's "real" and what's not. Reality itself is actually relative like anything else -- it's just a matter of perspective. That aspect's been dealt with among many others in Matrix when Morpheus asks Neo which pill he might take. Whether pill he might decide for, there won't be a guarantee the world he's seeing, smelling, touching is really what it seems to be. So in fact he could keep doing his thing and don't give a shit about "reality". Neo's like Adam in that neverending Heaven-Story with Eve and that snake ensnaring him to eat the forbidden fruit: he's leaving his subjective reality just in order to find to another subjective reality. I didn't see Matrix:Reloaded yet, but chances are this whole reality thing has been expanded by one step and the whole deal he's into ain't real as well. At the same time it's very damn real, just like his regular daily life he had before. All of those considerations have one thing in common: they move the questions of how our world really works at heart one level up without giving any answers, just like the world religions do - the real world is "not here, up there" might be possibly a better answer than "you'll never know".

Lemme conclude: the Matrix theme provides a lot more than a nice background for robotic apocalypse scenarios. Animatrix may be no milestone in terms of narrative plot design, but like mentioned before, the execution is above par; a lot above par.
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[Matthew]

Have you seen American Psycho Flat?

I really like this thing when you question whether something is real or not as you mentioned above.
In American Psycho this guy thinks he is a paid killer and kills people, but in the end he founds out that he actually never killed anyone, it was just in his head.
As regarding what you said in the Self-port thread, yea maybe I have seen MAtrix too many times with me thinking I am a robot, but it was just a joke.

see you
Matthew