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eyalyab · Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 3:03 am

first, good luck with the new pc.

i didnt read all the previous replies, so this reply may sound to you like previous ones. anyways for what its worth..
for os, id choose win xp pro. some people like win 2k, donno why. win2k takes up more resources (ram-wise). xp is newer, microsoft is more likely to take care of her new puppy than old win 2k. xp pro is very stable (even without the service pack) on 3 computers in almost a year it barely crashed. its very good and i think you'll like it.

as for fresh starting once a year, i do that too. what i do is have system files on drive c along with the programs i use most (photoshop/office/etc..). after i install the newest drivers and the pc is "tip top" i create an image of the system drive with ghost. this way i dont have to do it all over every time i format. also, you can specify with tweakui for xp different locations for special folders (ie: program files, my documents, desktop, favorites, etc..) what i do is override windows default and make these special folders on another physical drive. then i dont have to worry about backing up before formatting.

i hope these personal habits of mine helped you.

faustgfx · Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 3:06 am

cheney · Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 3:50 am

I agree with Faust, and so does Microsoft. Win2k is lesser memory demanding than WinXP. The true benefits to WinXP lie in its newer revamped CPU addressing for recognition of newer advanced CPU featuers such as 64 bit bus, Hyperthreading, and other newer innovations from AMD and Intel. Alot of people may not like Microsoft, but its hard to argue their latest OS (XP) as being unresponcive to the marketplace.

Both Win2k and WinXP are memory hogs though. Dispite such the Windows OSs are the second fastest and second most responcive OSs on the market that rely on a GUI. The fastest being BeOS, but nobody uses it.
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B0b · Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 5:03 am

zaar · Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 10:33 am

Torstein Nordstrand · Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 1:40 pm

It's called Striping. Files are split in to and the halves places on separate physical drives. So everything is twice as fast, and you retain your capacity. Me likes...
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gekitsu · Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 4:20 am

B0b · Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 4:23 am

yeah thats why u back-up work on a regular basis Smile

there is no performace increase with RAID 1 - but u have the security of knowing if a file is corrupt on the first drive then the 2nd drive replaces it Smile

spooge demon · Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 5:42 am

Cheney, I have hacked the boot.ini file and the system sees 3.37 GB available as user memory. The rest is kernel memory that I cannot touch. However, consistent with Adobe's statement, PS thinks it is on a 2GB machine, even holding back memory it thinks the system needs. It is running at 1777 MB now, or 100% of what it thinks is available. This cannot be changed, so I am not sure the reasoning behind adding even more RAM, since it will never see use. And XP can only address 4GB anyway.

As far as a ramdisk setup, this system does pretty much everything in the blink of an eye, and XP is pretty good at caching often needed data, so the cost/benefit of this does not seem good.

cheney · Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 8:11 pm

The setup example I specified is expensive, but memory is getting cheaper, so in a year or two from now it should not be so expensive.

I really wish Photoshop would use more than 2gb of memory, because I have a 425mb tif file that I want to convert to a jpg file, but I don't have enough memory (I have 2gb).
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B0b · Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 11:51 pm

can't u cut the file in 1/2 then save each section and put them back together?

aphelionart · Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2003 12:53 am

sorry... i didn't realize there were 2 more pages! someone delete this..

eyalyab · Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 2:48 pm

neff · Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 8:36 am

OMG! What are u people talkin about O_o
I have to be such a bad Artist because of my 512ddr ram Sad

Thats it! I only have to buy one or two more GB of Ram Laughing

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Tomasis · Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 11:53 am

512mb ddr is enough if I use no layers and no large image file.. it makes me better artist hehe
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cheney · Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 5:45 pm

surferboi · Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 12:49 pm

hey spooge, nice system. I have something along those lines and im lucky i didnt stray past the 2gb barrier or id be in a world of pain.
I was wondering tho with ur new found beast would it be possible for you to try once again and do a progress of your work video like you tried a few times. I think i remember you saying it was jittery and slow a long time ago. Maybe now it might be possible to feed the insatiable curiosity of the masses. btw just saw pirates of the carribean.. makes ya just wanna go draw some some undead pirates dont it =)

take care
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Tomasis · Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2003 1:25 pm

cheney, yeah you have right

but I started to paint both digital and traditional at same time so I need to learn to work more at traditional way then I can create magical tricks with layers Very Happy

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aphelionart · Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 10:17 pm

hey guys.. long as we're talkin bout systems.. i posted bout a month ago.. planned on athlon xp 3000, but recently (may 21) intel released their new 800 mhz w/quad-pumped 200 fsb and hyper-threading (intel recommends only using WinXP for HT) processors that surpass the athlons in performance (athlon's comin out w/200 fsb in a few days but'll be more expensive and even then still a lil slower) at an even cheaper price... after reading the thread, im considerin goin for 2 gb ram, but for now just 1? what do u guys think:

p4 2.6c ghz (800mhz) on Asus p4p800
corsair pc3200 DDR 1GB (2x512) ram
antec amg660 case (includes power supply)
ati radeon 9700 pro
creative labs audigy 2
viewsonic p90f
pioneer 120-dvd 16/40x dvd-rom (flashable to be regionless!)
lite-on 48126s 48/12/48x CD-RW
wacom tablet

i was goin w/barracuda seagate 120gb sata drive, but seems like maybe 4 smaller drives are better?

going to fry's soon to decide on 2.1 speakers and kboard... any suggestions? and also, anyone here use the wacom mouse on their tablet efficiently? i never tried.. always had an extra mouse lyin' around.

oh, and of course, what art college junkie computer would be complete w/o some ballin' neon blue/yellow lights and a batman-logo adhesive etching?

-matt

surferboi · Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 8:47 am

aphelionart,

What is your main area's of use for the computer?
Photoshop, 3d programs, games, video?

Sounds like a good computer to me.
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balistic · Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 9:34 am

aphelionart · Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 12:44 am

balistic: i plan on using the dvd-rom to play my cd's. cd-rw is only for burning Smile

surferboi: this computer will be ~75% photoshop use. unfortunately, the RAM listed by the asus p4p800 overview as able to fill all four slots (thereby giving me 2gb) is simply AWOL anywhere i look.. nevermind the $400+ pricetag. at least the 800mhz fsb will efficiently utilize all the RAM it's given. ::shrug::

btw, i've decided on Creative I-Trigue 2.1 3300's...120gb seagate barracuda hard drive, i finally decided... keep things simple, at least for now!

with S/H (and still waiting on the speakers), the system's run up $1900 at newegg.com... not too shabby

-matt

B0b · Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 3:27 am

u should look on ebay for alot of ur stuff, alot of ppl now sell new hardware on ebay cheap as chips Smile

scumworks · Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 6:06 am

Thats one heavy system spooge, even a 3d fanatic would gaze in amazement. Now I just have to sell my soul to the devil to get cash for it myself. Maby it can get my mom to donate her's Smile

CwStone · Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 2:04 pm

B0b · Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 1:31 am

RAM is all dependant on what ur doing Smile

i was recently working on an image 69"x41" @ 300DPI, try doing that with effeciency on a 256Mb machine Smile

CwStone · Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 3:41 pm

ah hell no. my comp would just shut down, fizzle a little bit, maybe catch on fire, and explode. i guess what i ment was that the goodness of ur comp doesnt make u urslef a better artist - though it does help in an almost infinite amount of ways in expanding the possibilities of what u can do...i dunno if that makes sense.

but i didnt no u could even make 69 by 41 and have it 3000 res! Thats mind blowing! I dunno if u've already said this (i havent read through all the posts) but could u tell me what kind of comp u use? (brand, amount of RAM, memory, the whole bit)
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B0b · Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 10:12 am

i currently work on a PC built by myself - have been since my first PC back in '96

its a Dual PIII (xeon wasn't even in the equation) 1.1Ghz, Abit VP6 Motherboard, 2Gb PC133 RAM, 3Dlabs Wildcat VP870, 19" Hitachi CM751ET 1600x1200@75Hz .21 dot (will have a new hitachi monitor for xmas CM721FET), 15" unbranded (1024x768, use it for pallets etc) 160Gb IDE RAID 0, Creativelabs Soundblaster Live! value, D-Link 4 Port Firewire, 4x DVD+R, 48x CDR all running under 2k SP4, with litestep as a replacement for M$ Explorer shell (runs 15% more efficiently)

my next PC will b a Dual XP64 CPU sys prolly next year sometime as i've just shelled out for a Canon EOS 300D + extras...

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luggage · Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 9:42 am