[B0b]

looks like CS3 will be more painter like, being able to rotate the canvas and better tablet control..

set for 1st Q 07

[Nag]

Been wanting to be able to rotate the canvas for ages on ps, hope they add some more brush options aswell, e.g. pick up underlying color as you paint, could be interesting.

[Lunatique]

That's good to hear. I've long wished for a software that combines Painter and PS perfectly, but I gave up hope after it became apparent that Adobe is mostly interested in the photography end while Corel is mostly interested in the painting end. At this point, Adobe has a much higher chance of implementing a painting engine that rivals Corel's than Corel competing with Adobe in the photography market. So Adobe is the likely one to make my dreams come true.

[balistic]

Painter must be doing pretty well if Adobe's finally being forced to acknowledge the existence of illustration.
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[Lunatique]

Yeah, Painter's gotten a lot more popular with the recent versions being far more ergonomic in terms of UI. Also, more pros are using it--causing their admirers to follow as well. Guys like Ryan Church definitely helped promote Painter in a huge way.

[Francis]

Man, if they implement that canvas rotate thing, I will stop buying and not using new versions of Painter!
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[M@.]

bah , if you want to rotate the canvas just buy a cintiq
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[balistic]

Or a tablet PC
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[Francis]

Now there's an economical couple of solutions.
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[3nasty]

[eyewoo]

I like that Photoshop is mainly a digital photography program. That keeps its engine well grounded at the fore front of the digital medium rather than at the fore front of trying to imitate old traditional media......but an easy canvas rotate function would be nice.
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[lysander]

i guess ill just stick with err, photoshop 5 for now as always until CS2 comes down in price
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[B0b]

upgrade? $140 or sommat to upgrade to CS2 from a previous version of PS

[lysander]

hmm. i thought you had to have the very previous version of photoshop to upgrade, ie. id need CS to upgrade to CS2. I'm not sure on this though.
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[Impaler]

Nah, Adobe's page says you can upgrade any version for $169.
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[B0b]

and from elements for a bit extra

[Tomasis]

go go ADOBE !!!

Painter is worthless because I have oily Winsor & Newton things (brushes, colours). It is just for me...

Lunatique, admirers? do you have a lot of such things? ROFL get down on the earth! Ryan is not good enough as Craig Mullins. He is many stars away ;)

I dont know if Corel can really bear to go at its own when Adobe and Macromedia company is so huge. I do usually like Dreamweaver and Homesite was not that bad then a long time ago...

[balistic]

[Tomasis]

Balistic, hihi, I just joke. I guess I dont do again here in Sijun :) I just posted my opinion regarding softwares. I have tried Painter. This is not that bad also. There are no many good softwares otherwise. Gimp I cannot to get used with. Artrage and small sound fun also but not very convenient as digital mediums. Of course it depend on hardwares also.

Im not against if you like Ryan better than Mullins. I can tear works of both masters. Here again, Im funny!

[lysander]

in case you havent seen yet, craig updated the other week
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[Tomasis]

OFFTOPIC im confused. Checked for last uploads. there I find only Tao feng. nothing new :( ;) but I can always enjoy of textures anyway OFFTOPIC

[3nasty]

[Tomasis]

I just hope that Adobe buy only Painter of Corel and improve coding or something to improve "smoothness" as with PS. I believe some misunderstand me when comparing with oil painting, all possible digital mediums are not even or some stars near at the level regarding expression or what you like to see. Though slowness may be not the big factor in the AWFUL commercialism... no, Im playing with cards again

[3nasty]

[Tomasis]

3nasty, you speak as painter. Painter suits you. but you forgot how much flexible photoshop is. I work a lot with photography. so I appreciate the conjuction of macromedia and adobe. Macromedia is quite large and I like flash, dreamwarer and other many. Premier, indesign, reader are not bad from adobe. so I'd not call a monopoly but good products. I cannot recall another product from Corel without painter (painter was based on small company procreations if I remember correctly). DS I work with photography, design, web, painting, drawing.. a lot a lot.. just Im weak small chamaleon hehe good luck with you, 3 nasty.. you improve , isee ;) OFFTOPIC f'ckin'

[balistic]

Corel Photo-Paint is a great app. More powerful and flexible than Photoshop. Unfortunately Corel has never given it the attention it deserves. I guess they don't want to try to compete with Adobe directly.
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[3nasty]

Tomasis ;; I'm not a f'n painter ,I just use Painter as tool..Natural media painting ..?? this is funny ,...this is just program , and I like him!!!


balistic .....

[balistic]

Well, Corel now owns Painter and Paint Shop Pro, in addition to Photo-Paint. That's three very different raster image programs.

PSP aims at consumers who can't afford or don't need something like Photoshop (Photoshop LE users, basically). Painter aims at professional illustrators, which Adobe has generally ignored. Photo-Paint, however, is an image editing program with painting capabilities that was originally aimed squarely at the same kind of people who use Photoshop.

Maybe Corel realized there was no way they could penetrate that market directly, and decided to use PSP and Painter to absorb customers outside of Adobe's range of focus.

At any rate, the only way to even purchase Photo-Paint anymore is to buy the entire Corel Draw bundle, which makes it obvious that Corel has no intention of challenging Photoshop directly.

Probably a smart move on their part. I can't imagine anybody who could seriously challenge the dominance of Photoshop at this point, just in terms of brand recognition. Maybe Google.

Adobe has that market locked.
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[Tomasis]

well said, ballistic. I remember old times with PSP. very like to Gimp, I dare to say. But since you said about Photo Paint, I will try out this. I'm most interested how UI looks, how good stability is etc. Im toooo used with PS UI and could click on every text without "seeing" like playing with the brain waves :D Google seem already had to lock the market also. Yahhoo is that big? I dont know. But the discussion here is pretty interesting. Im more interested to get good value paying dollars/yens/euros. Unfortunately or fortunately, bundles from Adobe sound more valuable than offers from Corel :( :) ;) stop with me, monkey

[balistic]

I really like Photo-Paint's interface. It isn't beautiful, but it's VERY customizable. You can set it up however you like. It even has a mode that makes it resemble Photoshop's layout.

It is a little buggier than Photoshop though . . . it does crash on me once in a while.

Okay, it's a LOT buggier than Photoshop. But I still like it
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