[whom]

samhell, wow awesome, I love the concept.


More experiments from me, realized that the views might be a bit confusing here. Ah lol better luck next time I guess...



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[T_England]

Samhell, I love that concept, it reminds me somewhat of the suspension system from the new mars rover from NASA and i mean that in a good way. Very plausible. Great experiment whom, you know it looks really painterly to me which is not something i see often in 3D works. Do you UV the models beforehand so you can get texture? Sorry for no image with my text, i guess i better get my arse in gear and make some progress
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[samhell]

Thanks guys! ^___^

I am really falling in love with Sketchup because of the easiness it provides to working on an design idea. Getting this far with the ATV concept by only sketching and painting would have taken me a lot longer I believe. Sketchup also seems to be feeding my creativity more than other 3d programs. For me they tend to stifle it instead.

One thing though, that I'd really love to see in Sketchup would be the ability to add light sources... Sketchup's "monotheistic" light system has caused... a lot of frustration.

@T_England: I tried to keep an 80�s feel to the vehicle and also keep it as utilitarian as possible. And to be honest, I had a ton of trouble with creating anything that looks "believable" as an suspension system (even for Sci-fi), so I am extra happy to hear it passes critical observation.

[whom]

T_England, I am afraid that the material is just a a shortcut made with different glossiness and some IOR set with glass setting, that way you get some kind of see through and reflective. I have been messing around with those settings.... Uv unwrap would take too long on these speed practise that I am doing at the moment.
I feel that there's good practise with shapes when it comes to the more speedier projects.
How's the dune buggy coming along?

I realized something with how to build whole objects better with this sculpt here, perhaps build and then reduze the triangles to then make some detail....






Did any of you guys celebrate St Patrick's Day? I had a blast yesterday, too many beers though but man I tell you those Guiness and Killkenny are some hell of a good beers.








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[durgldeep]

Glad to see action here...

whom, which program? Funny I 'discovered' the same thing: go nuts with detail
then reduce to bare minimum as needed.

Just to show I'm still moving (below); far as I can go without reference.

[whom]

durgl, I use sculptris for these quick sculpts. the idea is to use blender for everything though. There's a mirroring problem with blender when it comes to sculpting, otherwise it would be perfect for sculpting too. It might be better with Bmesh, still do look forward to Bmesh.
High hopes and crossed fingers for that feature.

Nice sculpt there btw.


Testing out add sphere and then add another, and then another one... lol.




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[durgldeep]

blender blender blender, tisk - but yeah, that's my ultimate goal too (when
they get it sorted <cough> )

sculptris is great for quick stuff, agree; and I noticed sphere sphere sphere is
the only way not to get stuck re proportions, etc.; still practicing (below)...

the frame in ur images reminded me I haven't checked for a scupltris update,
just got the new one

[Tomasis]

cool durgldeep and whom

i guess i will check both free apps once bmesh is out :p
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[durgldeep]

samhell, shameless! - welcome to the club - vehicle concepts are still
beyond me, kudos...

same for armour but think I found a workaround (below; design help from Halo,
obviously): might be easier (at least for me) to do basic shape in sculptris,
then build the elements in sketchup/blender (where precision is a restriction)...



don't like the updated sculptris (went back to original version) tho paint
actually *works* in the new one (new toy!)...

Tomasis, excuses excuses...

[durgldeep]

Stopped to finish figure (started with old bust) - onward.

[Tzan]

I took some photos of an old power transformer behind my building.

Most of the time here was spent fixing the photos into a texture image, so not much artistic stuff really.

I had to do some reconstruction of areas behind grass and concrete, cloning.
It was a cloudy day and that box has been taunting me for several years.
Overcast sky is best for pictures.
Its 42 inches tall.

This box has been sitting outside for 37 years, the yellow is pine tree pollen buildup.

Screen shots from Lightwave.

[durgldeep]

Nice texture, Tzan (something I haven't tackled yet).

Stage one, done (basic components):

[whom]

Tzan, that works very well, nice texture work.

durgl, Wow inspirational stuff for sure, you're really good. I have started to try out some technical sculpting too inspired by you. Hard to get clean lines in sculptris though....


A rough concept for a Roman Carrier, was thinking steampunk I think. lol.






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[RayToh]

whom> Oooo. Interesting. Nice~
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[durgldeep]

whom, thanks

cool Roman Carrier, including clean/crisp lines (always pleasing)...

second pass (bottom to top, this time):

[whom]

Raytoh, thanks man. You do any 3d?

durgl, appreciate it, thanks. gonna be interesting to follow the progress of this halo character. Looks great already.
How many triangles does your computer support? I have trouble at 500 000 already, only have 4 GB Ram on my laptop....


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[durgldeep]

whom, I've got 4GB too but gets laggy at about 200,000 faces (this particular
machine). Solved that by reducing the figure and working the armour in
sections (below). Bottom square is 'registration mark' (for matching in
sketchup/blender).



Have glanced at halo stuff but don't want it to be a 'halo character' (bit more
digging I see it could be a motocross helmet too, etc.). Aiming for Patel Grand,
hope to make something original.

Tricky stuff, thicker legs shortens them (messes with proportions), etc. - we'll
see what happens.

[whom]

They released the test version Blender 2.63, hmm think I will wait cause usually those test versions are really unstable.
Looking at the pic in this link makes me even more excited about Bmesh, wow.
http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:Ref/Release_Notes/2.63


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durgl, yea reducing seem to be a neat trick when sculpting bigger shapes. Ahh a character for patel grand, cool.



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[samhell]

Darn... internet and Sijun are great and all, but sometimes I just wish it would be possible to sit around the same table (with plenty of beer) with all the guys and gals of Sijun and really share and learn from all the knowledge here... *sigh*

@Tzan: As far as I can tell, that looks like a ready game asset. I love the worn look of the textures!

@durgldeep: How's the suit coming along?

@whom: Can I ask you a favor? Please finish that flying creature, for I think it is some of the most refreshing (and CREEPY) creature designs I've seen in a long looong time. Another pair of spikey appendages or praying mantis style main "hands" might make that creature look really nasty.

*phew* 4 day break coming from work thanks to easter, that means more time to paint & create. ^___^

/end rant

[whom]

samhell, thanks very kind. Yea you know that would be cool to share a few beers in the future. Regarding that sculpt, I don't save them but only the screenshot. Mostly practise for now to get comfortable with sculpting. Appreciate the comment.
Do you sculpt?


Had a few beers tonight, hence the marathon.




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[Tzan]

Samhell
Yeah its a game thing.
I made a specular map and a normal map, then put it into Unity and it looks good.

Normal map seems like a waste of time, but good practice.

[durgldeep]

whom nice, very ornate...

samhell it's coming slowly (got sidetracked into another project)...

step two: import into blender or sketchup and start 'tracing' shapes...



interesting coincidence (samhell):

"the idea is to get people with IT and drive together under one roof"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/9711029.stm

[samhell]

durgldeep, that is exactly what I'm talking/ranting about!

I guess my problem is that the older I seem to get the faster time flies by. That also brings the problem of trying to find all the time to do and learn what one wants.

As Whom mentioned sculpting, I'm starting to get really interested in it. Especially after seeing all the amazing stuff you guys come up with, but I just don't have the time or rather I don't dare to get sidetracked too much from what I still have to learn about painting... and there's a lot.

And I guess what I was also trying to say earlier was that, instead of only communicating over the internet, it would be really cool every once in a while to meet up IRL, especially when starting to learn something new, like for example sculpting or 3D skills. Instead of starting from square 1 and piecing it together alone.

But I'm really happy that we have Sijun to help us in sharing and showcasing knowledge. Without it, I'd be miserable.

Sorry for the long rant. I'll get me coat now.

[RayToh]

whom> Super rusty. Haa. Then again i should say. I think i forgot alot of the stuff already. I think if i try, i can still use the basic function. Anything too extensive or indepth, I don't think i can rememeber. I need a refresher course. Haa. 3D max trained but haven't really touch it for a long time. Been thinking of trying out zbrush or sketchup but haven't really get into it. Maybe when i have time. Haa.
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[Tomasis]

durgldeep, I dont fall for the trick

it looks good with halo concept!
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[durgldeep]

samhell re internet versus real life, group chat might be a useful middle
ground: real time access to anyone's knowledge (possibly 24/7?)...

currently I spend a lot of time in an atheist site; group chat is always open
while I'm working on 3D stuff - but they're clueless about 3D...

if we could find a group chat that's accessible to everyone, I'd much rather
keep one eye on that and offer and learn what I can (including 'moral support')...

my thoughts; would be glad to hear others...

[samhell]

Just to show that I still remember to make a post with pictures too...



This is again for the new chapters of Genesis. It is going slow, but still moving forward.

@durgldeep: Hmm, that might be a good idea. I was thinking about making a thread here for technical questions, but I think that is overdoing it a bit. I think I'll try to learn to use the private messaging here more. Especially if I ever find time for sculpting

[whom]

durgl, thankx.

samhell, love the details in your stuff, looks great.

I am still messing around with these quick sculpts, I tell myself that practise makes perfect. lol.




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[samhell]

Thanks Whom, though I think I use beveling wayyyyy to much when I need to create details. I blame the hurry.

I probably sound like a broken record, but I really dig those creaturesculpts you are making Whom. The previous sculpt has a ridiculous Franz Kafka-ish vibe to it. Awesome!

Here's a mysterious update, about 70% done and then I can carry on with other things.

[whom]

samhell, lol guess I am starting to sound like one too, thanks. Cool ship.

I have tried to start some speed sculpt sessions over at Cgscociety together with ordinary speed sessions, hmm doesn't seem to go that well.
Anyway, I have been starting to experiment with bump and color on the speed sculpts.
Still waiting for the next Blender version, 2.63, they have promised in the next coming days.
I will post update here when it comes.....

This one became a bit dark...


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