[samdragon]

Hey folks, I'm new to this board, I was on the 3dpalette board..but U know what happened.. anyway.
I'm doing this illustration for a short story called "upgrades." I need some help on deciding which sketch works the best and maybe some ideas on what to put in the background. I cropped the image in alot, so there is plenty of room to add stuff if needed. These are really rough sketches, I can clean them up if they look to confusing.

Thanks





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[Mozeman]

What is supposed to be happening here?

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[samdragon]

hmm. well. I can't really say to much as the story is not published yet. It's a sci-fi story that involves people who can upgrade themselves with software etc. One of the main characters is a male who has some "problems" when he does an upgrade. I'm sorry that I can't provide any more information. :/


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[zapman]

Ohm let me be the 1st to reply!=)
he he
Good sketch�s to start off with.

"Upgrades" I like the 1st because you can see HARDWARE that�s when I think when I read the word Upgrades now.

How about adding ONE flat wire like them 15pin ones. (to top drawing)

The whole Wire coming our and going in Head has been OVER seen by me, how about wires on his back or arms?

It�s doing his own Upgrade?
Maybe add Robot hands?
Background:
Don�t forget the Screws and bolts!
Can always use a Floppy Drive in his head cant he? =D

Lot of Long hanging wires?

Hardware parts lying around?

Utilities lying around on desk?

Humans in a Window pressing buttons to controls robots in a WHITE room. Lay the Figure on the Dentist type Chair?

Well that�s my yakking for you =)

Ohh it can also help if you give some hints like the word "BETA" on his head or neck or on his arm some thign like 'Beta 25^1.11'. to help out the title "Upgrade" of the image.




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[zapman]

eeek its for a story? well then never mind most all my ideas i told you hehe!

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[Marksman]

I like the 2nd one best
I would put lots of computer stuff and heaps
of cabes

cool sketches

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[samdragon]

I have some creative freedom with the project. I agree that the wires coming out of the head thing is over done, I didn't realize that untill you pointed it out.
The more I look at it, I thinkt the top one will work better once it's fleshed out and colored.
Thanks for the ideas folks. I'll watch this threa for awhile before I start any changes. My only idea for the background was going to be some text like stuff, like the "matrix" code thingy, but that's been done way to much. My brain is running on empty, time to visit Craig's home page for some inspiration

[AliasMoze]

Samdragon,
It's difficult to help without knowing what you're trying to communicate.
You don't have to give away the whole story, but what's going on in this panel?

Is he crying 'cause his face is falling off?
Is he in the midst of upgrading?

[Drorak]

Looking at the pic, I'm thinking he was trying to upgrade himself to Windoze 2020 and received a Fatal Exception Error

[ilmi]

put a techie chick to comfort him a bit.. now.. we have a love story to develop from here.. hehe

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[Morganic]

Second one is slightly better. It could be hard
to figure out for people what's going on in pic 1.
But if they see wires and shit it has to be
something about technology.

It looks cool! Can you post the final image
some day for us to look at?

[This message has been edited by Morganic (edited May 11, 2000).]

[samdragon]

Aliasmoze, It's a short story, so I cant really say too much more without giving away the plot. The story is about 9 or so pages, please understand that I have to respect the authors wishes untill the story is published for the public.
I'm not illustrating an actual event that happens in the story. I'm just doing a general "eyegrabber" that will relate to the story with out giving away the plot. The last illustration I did was taken from an event that happened in the story. They had to wait for the secold serial to come out before they could publish the illustration, because it gave away too much information.

Ilmi,
Yeah, I could put the woman in the illustration as she does play a "killer" role in story (hint hint)
these are all good suggestions people, I'm very greatful for your help.

Yeah, i have had to install winblows 2000 about 3 times now, so I know how this guy feels.

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[Affected]

Somehow, I like the second image's composition more, though I think the wires could hang a bit looser.

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[samdragon]

Thanks for all your help people. I'm going to stick with the second sketch and rework it some doing some of suggestions you all have mentioned. It's great to get feedback like this, usually all i get is " what program did you use" You folks have been a great help. I'll post the image as it comes into shape. I'm sure I'll need help with some coloring and texturing. I usually work in painter but I'm going to give this one a try in photoshop. So get your thinking caps on, I'll be comming back for more help.
The reason I'm going with the second one is, even though the wires are over done, they do fit into the story, and in the image they give more to the composition, drawing the eye to the head and keeping it from being such a centrialized image.
thanks again
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[This message has been edited by samdragon (edited May 11, 2000).]

[zapman]

Hey!
guess what i found you idea right here!
look at this image below i took it off the WIN-TV (was watching VH1 music)
not sure what music video thats from.


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[samdragon]

thanks for pic, I think that's from the Bjork video. some great softimage stuff!
I've been working in maya all day long and my brain is hurting. Time to rest.


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SAMDRAGON

[Guy]

cool stuff. personaly i like the second. kinda tells you whats happening a little more clearly.

[freddy flicks stones]

For the image, put some more space up top, for breathability. The character looks to trapped, with the cropping put on the image, unless the image is supposed to also depict a trapped feeling. Like I am trapped in this damn 2.5, I WANT ME 3.0!!!!

The hand, more specifically, the thumb will need enlarging. It is too small for the size of the figure. The head size might also be a tad small in relation to the body. But the big sleeve might be making this call a bit shaky to judge effectively...I would paint it with a monotone pallette, probably blues, to fit the mood, with some contrasty reddish glows in the opening casing of the skull region. The wires add a more connected feeling to the background or any surrounding elements. And I would keep the background simple to non existent, just darker values of blue, close to the blacker values, to really emphasize the detail in the back of the head. Illustrators tip, straight from dean Cornwell, a now deceased american illustrator, complex subject, simple background. Complex background, simple subject. Good luck and post the finished results...

[Muzman]

that shot is from the film clip for the Bjork song "All is full of love"; designed and directed by Chris Cunningham (better known as God! by people like me)