[WildMyth]

I look in here and I see a lot of artist using comic style art. I maybe wrong. I was just wondering how many of these artist have actually done comics? Be it inking, pencilling, lettering, writing the story, or just worked for a comic company which involved its production. How many of you want to do a comics of your own? How many have actually tried to break into the comic world? What was the result? I've seen a lot of samples in the forum that exceed most comics I've read.
I was just wondering if there are people in here that want to get into comics? If so why is it that you have not done so?
What am I getting at?? I do not have clue.

I am merely stating a thought that comes in mind (not a very stable one:rolleyes every time a see Piece of art I think is related to the comic style. That is all.
I would like to hear about your story if you have one. Or share some of your work with us.

[Sedone]

I'm a Joe Kubert School dropout. I attended there my first year out of high school, with dreams of becoming one badazz comics drawin' mofo. But I came back home because of a girl. Awwww. Actually, you can see her in the topic I recently started

To this day, I am still haunted by the knowledge that I may have been a comics "stah". Hmmm, but don't tell my girlfriend that. Actually, I hope to draw one someday. I have a great love of graphic storytelling. But it's grueling work.

Oh yeah, and I have a rejection letter from Marvel and Top Cow from a few years back that pretty much said "YOU SUCK!"

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[WildMyth]

Sedone you probably accomplished more than most of us in here could have. At least you reached the school and got a rejection letter.
I only dreamed of going to the school myself but realize after reaching the convention critique lines that it is a challenging field to be in. The Comic field is only for the best. They no longer looked for good artist, they only wanted the next hotshot to work for them, the best that's out there. I took my so called portfolio and listened in on the comments made by the artist like Rob Liefield and non artist Jim Shooter. I knew my skills were nowhere close to what they we're looking for. I've seen so many artists turned down. Most left the convention with their hearts and dreams of becoming what they have dreamt of as a child on the convention floor tail between their legs and all. I wasn't one of them. It didn't take a rocket scientist to tell my I sucked. I got out of that line as quickly as I got in knowing I didn't have what it took at that moment. The ones that I believe that had what it took no matter how bad their artistic skills were are that one's that took the criticism and continued to come back every year improving over the previous year. I believe that they will one day achieve their dream no matter how hard it is. I have to make a living so I became a graphic artist. I look forward to one day reaching for that shooting star again. If I'm not to old or dead by then

[Foxfire]

Wow it is interesting that this post got started. I thought about the same thing. I am currently developing my skills well we all do that all the time anyway. I guess what I mean is I'm hiting the books soft cover lol. I love to color in the New comic style. I have often thought that a few people in this forum could release there own comic. this would be quite a task I know. But would the end result be worth the effort?? I think so !

[Xcal]

Actually, I don't want to make my living doing comics because... well, I'm too greedy. Comics make sucky money. There is much more money in graphic design.

I want to do online comics for fun though, because I have extremely cool story ideas and I can draw "okay".

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http://artofsin.com/

[WildMyth]

Jyashuwa thanx for sharing your drawing with us. Since I haven't bought a single comic in 4 years, the only characters thats familiar is Black Anvil and Synergy that's all I recognize. You�re going to have to catch me up on whom the others are. It�s been a while since I read a good comic. I'm thinking about starting again. What comics do you recommend Jyashuwa.

Foxfire please post some of your work for us.
Maybe I'll post some of mine later as well so the forum family can give us tips on how to improve our skills that we might have overlooked.

CapnPyro can you please fix your link so we can go to your site to enjoy your work. thanx

Nice site Xcal. I'm curious how long you estimate that it will take you to make your online comic? Would you be employing help or will you be doing this project solo? What will it be about? Do you have any characters that you will be using that you can show us.

Xcal I don't think any one of us want to get into the comic industry for the money. Graphic Design covers that already as you already know. That's why we are all graphic artist. The comic world is one of the hardest field to enter with the least benefits. With the exception of self gratitude and self accomplishment. Not all dreams are based upon the ever green money. Some of use just want to get the chance to share the stories of our souls through art to the world. Some darker than others.
Basically we all share the same dream with differences in experience. That is why I believe this forum is the best place for our skills to hone. We have criticism in here as harsh as the real world of comics and that is needed to harden you tolerance for difference in opinions and turn it into a form of motivation to improve. I've never been a room like this before, where people are actually helping each other towards improving the gifts that they already have.
We all have a difference in the way that we choose to display our artistic soul. All in all artist are brothers and sisters and cousins (depending on what part of the country your from) No matter what the choice of medium. In a way we all just want to express our selves/tell a story on a level that we all can relate and that is art(until the invention of telepathy).

[WildMyth]

Jyashuwa sorry if I didn't get the characters right. It's been so long since I've seen or drawn anything related to comics. I'm not even sure if I can tel the difference between Batman and Robin anymore.
Old Age is kicking in folks.

[CapnPyro]

my sig link works actually, just gte's been up and down the past 3 days, i guess just try it every once in a while. i emailed them to let them know of the problem, sawwy

-CapnPyro-

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[hennifer]

one of the things about the graphics industry (especially things like comics & animation & gaming) is that everyone wants to do it. it seems like everyone who's a fan wants to make that their career, and that makes competition really fierce.

i've seen a few documentaries about artist gurus who have evaluation sessions - they sit at a desk all day and a huge line of hopeful artists file by, and the guru points out all the mistakes.

even tho a post on the board here might look qualified, i'm sure most comics professionals could point out lots of flaws. its also much more difficult to maintain a character through a whole bunch of drawings.

anyways, we ARE lucky enough to have a few professional artists in the gaming & graphics industry, but i imagine they'd heartily agree with what i've said.

[kos.mandis]

Here's a page of a comic I did some time ago for an essay... Things got really ugly as it was near the deadline and I had to cut corners (lots )

[WildMyth]

hennifer you are right.
It is tough, and fierce and the world is filled with sharks that are professionals that can easily swallow anyone one of us whole.
Yes, we are all fans at one point.
Just as the professionals.
Name a professional that was not a fan before he stepped out of the shadows to join the few elite.
I'm sure non of those few select professionals have ever had anyone point out to them every single one of their mistakes.
I'm sure no one ever told them "NO!!" and that they didn't have what it takes to have a career in the field they are currently
I'm sure none of them was ever turned down for a job in the field that they are in now.
What sets them apart for the fans is that they didn't just take no for an answer.
The didn't just place their heads down and agree to the mistakes pointed out to them. They to had their faults, used it as a motivation and refined it to a point to where it was no longer just a mistake but a lesson on what was needed to be improved. Everyone has a weak spot. (If your me you would have spots all over like a dalnation .)
My point is that few artists that we are lucky do have didn't give up.
Is a dream unreachable just because it�s hard and not easy?
Is a dream unreachable just because someone tells you so?
Is a dream unreachable just because you everyone else has dreamt the same dream?


Everyone at some point dreams of owning a house. It�s hard, but it doesn't mean that no one can achieve that dream because everyone else wants it. Sometimes the home you get is not always perfect either and may need some work to improve. But, it is yours and it is you that as earned it to call your own.

YES we are lucky enough to have a few professional artists in the gaming & graphics industry; I whole heartily agree with what you have said.

I'm just glad that those lucky few professionals didn't just quit on themselves every time they ran into an obstacle. Because if they did, we would have never had those few lucky professional here today.

I do agree with you whole heartily hennifer.
As long as your not-telling everyone to give up on their dream because it�s hard.

Thanx for a different perspective in all this hennifer. Have you ever accomplished anything that someone said you would never accomplish?
thanx again hennifer.

[hennifer]

no, i don't think anyone should give up on their dreams! ..i do, however, think that a lot of people don't take a step back and think REALLY hard about what they want. to answer your question, i got into a really exclusive school when everyone thought i couldn't, which felt great! it didn't feel so great, however, when i realized 6 months in that it wasn't the school for me.

a career is a big deal, no matter what you do, and just because you enjoy something doesn't mean you would enjoy making it. (for example, i like pizza. i don't want to own a pizza parlour tho. i'd rather figure that out before i buy the parlour!)

just a warning to look (and think) before you leap, and to keep in mind that doing something as a hobby can be just as rewarding as doing something professionally. it can be a lot more fun, and give you much more freedom.

[CapnPyro]

Really great article orignally brought to my attention by the whitedeer on the top cow message board (which is btw a great comic book board)
http://www.fandom.com/comics/editorial.asp?action=page&obj_id=204683


-CapnPyro-

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[Jyashuwa]

Definitely a career based entirely on skills. It's frustrating to here about artists who get into comics when they were like 18 years old. Guys who are like drawing prodigies, such as Campbell, Leifield, and Joe Madereira. Then I again I here about how Todd Mcfarlane was turned down hundreds of times.
heh, now he's the Man. I guess all you can do is keep trying.

Some art for you:

[CapnPyro]

my style, or the stuff i have on my site is comic based, and yes id like to be a comic book penciller someday. im finishing up the first page of 4 or so sequentials that im going to take with me down to the san diego comic-con. the stuff on my site im not terribly happy with, which is why im drwaing some new pages which i think are really going to turn out well

-CapnPyro-

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[WildMyth]

Yes, hennifer people should step back and ask themselves if this is what they really want. You must have felt the world at your feet when got into that really exclusive school when everyone thought you couldn't, It took you six months to realize that the school wasn't for you. What if you instead realized, that was what you really wanted. How would you have known without taking that chance. How would you have ever have known that if you never tried. Not everyone is going to know for sure until they try. Not everyone is going realize that their dream is not really what they want either. (maybe you don't want to own the pizza parlor just because you like it, maybe you just want/enjoy working there and making the pizza instead just being part of it's production)mmmmmmmm pppppiiiiiiizzzzzzaaaaaaaaa. now you've made me hungry hennifer.


I may sound like I totally disagree with you hennifer but I don't.
I understand what your saying.
I'm going to borrow and add to your quote if you don't mind.
hennifer: "just a warning to look (and think) before you leap, and to keep in mind that doing something as a hobby can be just as rewarding as doing something professionally. it can be a lot more fun, and give you much more freedom. But once in awhile take a chance so you don't continue to wonder the rest of your life a what if??"

"take a step back and think REALLY hard about what you want. And if you still want it go for it!!!!!"

Thanx hennifer sharing your experience with us.

[hennifer]

yeah, to be totally honest, i don't regret going to the school at all. it wasn't easy, or necessarily "fun" but i learned a lot.