Sijun Forums :: View topic - If you can't draw this you are not a true artist!

Jerry · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 1:00 pm

Dives you never said anything about my drawings... was something wrong with it?

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Dives · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 1:00 pm

this is in the original post:
So i decided i would try and draw something sensitive. And guess what I FAILED ISERABLY!! that is because i draw the same thing everyone else. This means, Samurai, bikers, wizards and monsters.

And i would love to show you my shitty artwork but i do not have a scanner. Oh and besides im not too good at art anyway since i have not practiced too much but i do draw on my spare time. 90% of the people here probably draw better than me and that is probably try. So stop bitching about the topic and either put up or shut up. This is not a chat room this is a forum.

faustgfx · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 1:02 pm

the heck is a bulcward?

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Sc00p- · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 1:03 pm

If I wanted everyday life I'd look out the window. We don't get to see swordfights, laser guns, or monsters in real life, so we give ourselves something to look at.

burn0ut · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 1:06 pm

/me bitches about topic.

Dives · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 1:10 pm

Jerry: tears is normal, betrayal is not working for me. and the city thing well i have no comment

Scoop-: im asking sensitive not everyday life. Everyday live would be grumpy people on streets.

Visigoth: it is sensitive while loading. When you dont see the rest only the head.

And quit biting my head off and explaining yourselves. Instead draw something like that and show me. I will put it like this: draw your version of sensitive. Every person has a different perspective that is why i suggested everyone give his own oppinions on pictures.
I WILL NOT HOLD YOU IN ANY LESS RESPECT IF YOU DO NOT DRAW THIS BUT IF YOU DO YOU WILL EARN MORE OF MY RESPECT!

EviLToYLeT · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 1:14 pm

read it backwards faustgfx

Well if you said that your pictures sux dives, perhaps show us again so we can actualyl help you... we have no idea what your looking for and frankly many of us dont have time to fufill your needs on drawing a sensitive pic.

Dives · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 1:18 pm

EviLToYLeT: Im really happy you would like to help but i still don't have a scanner im expecting one for christmas... then cover your eyes because here comes ugly.

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Dives; Shows how much your powers of perception have developed...hahaha

*laughs so hard he throws up on faustgfx*

oops...

Sorry.

See? I'm sensative! I apologized! Now, I get to dickslap you -- From across the country.
*WHACK*

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Sc00p- · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 1:25 pm

Your respect, truthfully, would be the last thing on this planet that I care about.

DeadlySCSI · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 1:26 pm

Do you have any idea how difficult it is to draw Sensitivity??? it's a deep emotion. Drawing a Wizard or a Warrior (as you so bluntly put it) is much easier for beginners... and most of us are beginners anyway. How much Modern Art is about Sensitivity anyway? Damien Hurst? I don't think so. If I want to draw a sensitive picture I will. ANYONE who can draw/paint/whatever has the right to call themselves an "Artist" because they are creating something from nothing. No need to be a smegging Zealot to the cause of "Sensitive Art".

You've missed the point by several miles...

faustgfx · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 1:27 pm

sc00p, liar, it'd be me whose respect you would care the least about, no?

/me accidentally shits and pisses on visigoth.
sorry.
/me does it again.

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Sc00p- · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 1:30 pm

And as a side note...just know that all of the mushy, sentimental, beautiful drawings I've done for people I care about would fit right into this category, but the only thing is that, I hate to knock you off that domineering horse, but, they're not for your eyes to see.

EviLToYLeT · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 1:31 pm

Heh. Miss the point Ithink not. For example, let me show you this smily face:

.. look. it's sad. It's sensitive it's caring. And yes, it does convey a lot of emotion. But, there is a lot of sensitive art out there, many of which are not digital. Usually, the artist conveys what he feels and ... heck, there are a lot of images that fall under "sensitive." For example, I'm sure many of you have seen wartime pictures where the background is a scattered mess buildings f'd up and you see one lone soilder walking out head down..... you just have to know where to look. It's all a matter of interpertation and if we could get a more refined definition it would help greatly. For example, at first when I heard sensitive I thought of a babys ass... oo so tender.... sensitive skin.

Dives · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 1:32 pm

this is turning into a joke.
And what is wrong with you people i already said i posted under that topic to draw attention.
And
scoop-: I don't care what you think of me. I think i had an argument with you before too...

Blitz · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 1:36 pm

Drawing "Sensitive" drawings is not what makes you an artist. As long as the people in this forum are drawing what they want and what they like, it's good enough for me, and I would never EVER say they are not artists. If my appetite for "Sensitive" art picks up I will go somewhere else. My favorite artist (Yoshitaka Amano) does allot of this "Sensitive" stuff. I Love Fantasy art and I love to draw fantasy stuff. That Is why I come here. If your reason for coming here is to look for "Sensitive" art, maybe you are in the wrong forum. I don't know. It's up to you. If you can't find what you want placing demands and calling people non-artists is not the way you find it. Unless your their art director, than you can place demands.

I am not trying to be mean or anything so don't take this the wrong way. You can also try. Yahoo.com and run a search on "Sensitive" art.

Blitz

faustgfx · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 1:36 pm

interperation?

not more, but maybe equally or a tad less important than implementing message/meaning/whatever to it that can be perceived in about 0.5 seconds.

but then again, last time i did that, it turned into 60 posts' worth of hate.

dives, need hints on how to counter attack sc00p? i've argued with him quite a bit. :>

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Chapel · member Member # Joined: 18 Mar 2000 Posts: 1930

Frankly, I could care less about drawing sincere or emotional pics right now. My goal is to get in to either a game company or a comic company. The last thing I would want to do is end up at Mattel cause I can draw a sincere Barbie. I think most of the forum here is pursuing the same thing and I'm pretty sure when we submit our portfolios we won't have "sensitive pictures" in them.

I think the thing that is pissing most of the forum off is the quote "If you can't draw this you are not a true artist!"

If it bugs you that much that there aren't enough "sensitive pictures" on the forum then maybe you should suggest it to Dhabih for the draw club. (thats right I spoke about it)

Uh.. yeah.. whatever.. back to my warrior babe picture.

Dives · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 1:48 pm

Chapel: i totally understand, And i doubt you will have any problems getting a job i have seen your art and i love it. And it has crossed my mind to talk to Dhabih so he could set it up in you know what.

Faustgfx: everything is about perspective so that is why i said everyone should draw what they think is sensitive.

Jerry · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 1:50 pm

I guess these days why people draw more violently is because digital art is more used in gaming than ever. And out of 40 games like quake3, unreal tournament, battlezone 2, deus ex, daikatana, diablo 2, silver, warcraft 3, starcraft, tribes 2, resident evil, parasite eve2, star wars demolition, star treck new world, final fantasy 9,final fantasy 8, perfect dark, sacrafice, mech warrior 4, wind back, starship troopers, gunmans chronicles, runes, street fighters, driver 2, megaman legends 2, everquest, real myst, Half-Life, Age of empires, Dark Stone, Revenant, Armored Core 2, Septara Core, Silent Hill, MEtal Gear Solid, Silent Scope, Silpheed, Gradius, Zelda Majora's Mask... There I can name 40 fighting games easily let's see about the sensitive...
Pokemon... no, fighting and childish...
Wheel of fortune... sounds sensitive but boring no digital arts included...
Hello Kitty Game... too childish no sensitive... cna't think of any

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Affected · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 1:53 pm

ahhhh, first you kick some folks in the ass for being too stuck in their ways, and I don't mind that, but then you go and say a sensitive pic is one of " An innocent looking girl/woman or someone crying"... If you ask me, that's about as sensitive as a punch in the face. If you're going to convey emotions by hammering the point through, you might as well paint in a speech bubble that says "I'm very, very sad...". In other words, there's no need to use an atom bomb, when a simple knife will get the job done much more subtly.

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Binke · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 1:58 pm

mmhm...a mountain of sugar is too much for one man to handle. Now I understand why God portions it out in those little packets, and why he lives on a plantation in Hawaii.

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nightmare · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 2:05 pm

what about sensitive men damnit! what, its only sensitive if its some sobbing innocent little girl/woman?? r u trying to go for the rape genre or something? :P

i personally think this is a retarded post in the first place. the title is stupid, since u just explained that it didn't really have anything to do with the post (just for attention). the subject is stupid cuz ur telling us what to do. as was said earlier, we'll draw sensitive pictures when we damn well feel like it. if u wanna go cry in the corner with ur rape victim pics then do it and leave the rest of us alone.

but thats just my opinion.

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RobT · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 2:08 pm

You mean pictures like the cover of romance novels?? All set. Too boring.

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synj · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 2:28 pm

you silly tardsnot. ehehe different artists have different styles. I'll give you sensitive you son of a bitch haha ENJOY

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faustgfx · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 2:29 pm

hallelujah.

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mantis · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 3:00 pm

synj to the rescue!

we win? wait, win what? o well, it boosts my ego, so it can't be that bad. . .

*thread closed*

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Freddio · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 3:36 pm

WE draw what we want son...

we draw the stuff which we like...

who says we must draw sensitive stuff

JohnGone · member Member # Joined: 12 Jan 2000 Posts: 133

I say be free and draw whatever you feel like drawing.

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Rag · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2000 3:59 pm

What is an artist? What is a ture artist? I've seen good works, I've seen bad, the guy next to me thinks the one I like sucks and I his. It's all a matter of taste. Look at Rothko..What a retarded notion of art..Throwing larges swipes of oils onto raw canvas so that the oil seeps around the ground..totally ridiculous! But not to him. He's in the Hirshborn Gallery of the Smithsonian, I'm not...so who am I to say he's not a true artist. Look at many modern artists, total shit they are puttin out. To me. But they are selling the stuff, and mine ends up in the trash, who has the more right idea? Hint: The ones who's stuff is selling.

There are no rules in art and so many people just can't get past that.