[Jabberwocky]

Okay I'm probably the last person any of you want to hear from, but give me just a minute or two of your time.

I read through a lot of the posts on both sides. And I've read through things posted at Lumental.

I am 18 almost 19. I graduated from High school where no one knew what Abode Photoshop was. I had no teacher that could teach me, and my boyfriend (who gave me PS) was far from artisit as anyone could be. I graduated as one of the top artist from my school. I was offered scholarships for art from colleges all over the US.

I came home one day with a first place in an art competion. I showed it to my Boyfriend whose response was, "no matter how good you do someone can do better." I was crushed by these words in the moment of pride and ego! Later that week when I was reading through post on here it dawned on me. Those words were not to put be down or lower me, but mearly to make me look and strive for a higher goal.

I came here and saw art work like I had never seen before. I was amazed by the stuff you guys did in mere minutes. Everything that I read to help someone else I would use towards my work. When one of you posted a sketch I would save it and mimic what you did to make it as awsome as you did when finished (understand I only had a mouse up until May 20 when I got my tablet).

Over the months that I have been here I have grown to admire, repect, and look up to many of you. I had always odd compared to my friends. The things I liked, my sense of Humor, and my style. And then I met you all and no matter how different you faustgfx think you are from Frost or vise versa to me you guys aren't (I've read most of the forums and honsestly don't understand most of it). You two like many of the others I've seen here are like "Gods" to me. I want to be able to do art pieces like you can. I sit back in Awww at the stuff you do.

Frost with you leaving "I" lose the input you would give others or the stuff you would post. I know I haven't written in the art forums for awhile, but I still read through them and if you don't mind I plan on checking out the art and post on your new forum time and again. I know I am far from what you would accept to be allowed to post. Because as faustgfx you guys are an elite group... and I have already read a few post. Many are strait to the point no feelings spared, but I had a teacher that would tell you your stuff was shit and tear it up and make you start over (he didn't do this to be mean, but to better our pieces and to prepare us for the customers which many of us are planning at one time or another to deal with).

faustgfx I admin you in standing up for what you feel is right. It takes a lot to stand up against someone (I'm sure) you called friend in the past. I also respect you thoughts when it comes to posting remarks for people's art. I have admired you work for awhile now.

New-Be's Many of you have gotten under my skin (not going to point fingers), but I have learned that you can learn just as much from those learning and those that are teaching. Many of you have asked questions and gotten answers for me before I knew that I was going to need to ask the question.

As for the rest of you that have been here for awhile. I guess all I can really say is thanks.

I'm not taking sides, nor am I putting anyones belief down (if I did I did not mean to and I'm sorry). I honestly can see both sides on this. Both have good points and both have done wrong things. I just wanted to point out what this forum (and it's not it without you) means to me. I came here to learn art, but I found a place where I can honest insight on topics about art and other things. I get all kinds of sides on things that make me go back and think about how I felt about my side. Makes me think deeper.

I'm sure that's not all, but I'm getting tired and it's 3 am here. I only intended this post to show how I feel about this forum not as another flame war.

Thank you for your time...

[faustgfx]

quick remark,

"It takes a lot to stand up against someone (I'm sure) you called friend in the past."

past? i still regard her as a friend, i still enjoy and like her artwork, and i still regard her as a really nice person. drop the word "past".

[Frosted Flame]

I really, really don't mean to be ignorant, but who is this girl? If it isn't my business I'll just shut the fuck up.

.. is it Enayla?

[Enayla]

I can tell you this right away. It is not me.

[faustgfx]

frosted- drop it.

[Frosted Flame]

Consider it dropped. Sorry for prying..

[nova]

Yea, i'm getting tired a little tired about all this too. Check my member number.. it's prety sad to see something great go to such trash. I've learned so much from this place.. don't know if I would have imrpoved as much as I did if I hadn't found it.

I think all this is combination of the size in general, clashes of the maturity/age of people and a few individuals who like pissing people off/have no respect. I'm dissapointed every time I come here and when things get a little better, there's always something to screw it all up. I wonder if its worth it anymore. I'm beginning to look elsewhere for something as simple as a little advice, good artwork and good morale.

And please.. Dhabih says he's almost scared to come look and post something. Told me himself.

[MoleculeMan]

who was the first member? I noticed that Dhab is #2...

Curiosity killed the MoleculeMan?

[Impaler]

Triangle Man will KILL YOU!!! RAH!!!!!!!!!!!!

I assume the first member was some test account Dhab did when figuring out his forum.

Jesus. I've been going here too long.

[Lunatique]

Nova, ask Dahbih to add more moderators, and lay down some less merciful rules.

[faustgfx]

hmm, so that entitles me as a retard. good point, jabber. although, what else is old?

[Jabberwocky]

faustgfx:
Before you get all hot again reread what I had wrote!
"It takes a lot to stand up againstsomeone (I'm sure) you called friend in the past."

Person A I was sure you were still friends with her, but Frost I am sure you have something between any friendship you once had.

And if I had put Person A the statement would be
"It takes a lot to stand up forsomeone (I'm sure) you called friend in the past."

You need to read a little slower before you go off on people!

[Jabberwocky]

faustgfx:
I did not call or emply anything about you being a retard. I just stated you needed to read a little better before going off on people. You're getting offencive and blowing up at people for no reason. Trust me if I was going to call you a retard I would have!

I understand you being mad at Frost for what he did to your friend. I'm sure I would be as well if it was a good friend of mine, but I don't know the whole situation and I know most of the people involve equally so I'm not going to be taking any sides and I feel there's no reason to.

I don't know the whole situation, but I know how I felt as a by stander here like many of the others that have been caught in the cross fire. And I just posted to say how I, like many other might be feeling.

[Blitz]

I think the lesson is this...

Dont Kiss your friends before you know them.

OK...I have no idea what that means....hmm

4719 members thats aloooooooot of people to try and keep in order...heh

If we all behave...Ill give you a lolipop

*Runs off*
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Jabberwocky]

No the lesson is
DON'T WIZ ON THE ELECTRIC FENCE!

[faustgfx]

quote:

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Originally posted by Blitz:
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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thanx foo, now i hurt my palate (...? you know, the ceiling of your mouth) with a Pringles chip =\

[DarkBlade]

Woohoo! I'm #1905! Err... anywho.

Jabberwocky, I hear ya. I'm also 18, just finished high school. Wanted to be an artist for years, known that I'd major in comics or animation since the summer after my freshamn year of school. Fortuantly my high school has a good visual arts program, though when I took the computer graphics class in the first year I rather ended up teaching it. Fortuantly it has become much more of the digital art class it is called than graphic design. (Nothing wrong with graphic design, but blast it call the course as it is!) Done decently with my art, much of it bein animation style, but def. no scholarships off of it here.

*pokes friend who introduced her to this board who's handle she can't remember* Where you at anyway?

Anywho.. I got accepted to Savannah College of Art and Design for their summer program last year and did that, and was again accepted to start my undergrad this fall for sequential art or computer animation. Was estatic about it, that's the one school I really wanted to go to.

Suddenly even more shit at home screws up than usual and I can't afford it anymore. Yippee, so now I'm out of school for another year (I didn't APPLY anywhere else) and will end up going to a state school for a regular undergrad in studio art, standard drawing complete with just over two years of academics that I won't need. Woo. Hoo. I just HOPE that I'll one, be accepted, and two, afford to go to SCAD for my MFA. And I know I'll have to take catch up classes for whatever major I go into because I'll be so far behind art school graduates it's not even funny.

To come back to my point, I come here to learn. I look at other people's work and think about it, what works and what doesn't, what do I like and dislike? What have other people said? Sometimes I post my own art and get feedback on it. Well, sometimes get feedback on it. I've been gone for a while and have come back to find some INSANE volumn. How do you guys find time to hold a job or go to school, draw, AND post this much?!

Though some of the crap posts do kinda take up time and space. I really don't care for flame wars or who's fart smells like what. But anyway... Yeah. Sorry, thoughts are rather disjointed at 4:52 am.

[Poprocksz]

I have a clefed pallet...damn hole in the top of my mouth....

[Strawberrysauce]

YUCK!! does that mean snot constantly fills
up your mouth?! yummy yummy.

[Jabberwocky]

DarkBlade-
I was offered a scholarship to Savannah College of Art and Design, but it would even cover my books. Can't get a good art scholaship if my life depended upon it (but the stupid jocks get full rides... no offence to the smart Jocks out there. I played sports too!) I didn't want to put that strain on my mother.

My Senior year I took Commercial and Advertising Art at the local Tech School. (The teacher was self taught in all the programs we use.) When I started I was planning on (after graduation) to go to a local State College (that has a great Art department), but by the end of the year I decided I could get mostly the same training (without all the other core courses) for less than 1/3 the cost and I got a grant that will pay for it all. Plus I stay closer to my b/f and my family. And now I honestly think that it's not what I want to do, but I'm going to get my associates and then I want to go into Education and become an art teacher...

Just think positive... when you die your art will be worth a lot! And they said we have to worry about life insurance.

[DarkBlade]

Aiya... yeah. Blast it, I wish the GA Hope scholarship worked at private schools the way it does public... at public colleges it pays tuition and a bit of a book allowance. (150/semester, so covers maybe one class but hey it helps). At private schools it covers about 2K a year. Thbt. Ah well.