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edraket
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So now I am officially an outcast right? (Actually my hippiecommie talk already took care of that  )
Btw ..my major was illustration. But I need to think of the future : )
Actually I just wanna do my own thing. And be able to combine painting and film. |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 10:32 am |
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| Try not to suck. But then again a fine artist never sucks - he is being original, we just don't get it. |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 1:30 pm |
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*high five*
yay for fine art majors.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2002 1:36 pm |
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WHAT WHAT WAHT!? EDRAKET! WHAT WHAT?! Whyd you changed it? Is the course not good enough ? why why tell me why cause i'm applying to Illustration there next year......tell me why man!!!!
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| Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2002 7:46 am |
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I kinda had this "Illustration or Fine Art???" thing before I went to Uni (and did neither).
Alot of the illustration courses I looked at didn't teach you craftmanship (from what I could interpret), but seemed to concentrate on modern trends and how to fit in with what modern illustrator's are supposed to be doing.
I think the move to fine art is a good one, but bear in mind your goals for doing so. "Actually I just wanna do my own thing." - something like this is concerning, because you could be doing Civil Engineering, Music, Computer Sciences, Ecology etc. and still be able to research Fine Art.
Either way, hope it goes well and learn as much as you can, be creative and don't get sucked into the void of having to create meaninglessness in order to impress a general public who seem to be impressed by almost anything thesedays. |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2002 10:54 pm |
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| Alot of the illustration courses I looked at didn't teach you craftmanship (from what I could interpret), but seemed to concentrate on modern trends and how to fit in with what modern illustrator's are supposed to be doing |
I find this really describes what I've been hearing and seeing while applying for Fine Arts courses around Australia, and it concerns me. Hopefully the one that I've got the best chance to get into will actually teach what I want to learn. If not... I'll try for an animation course. I've seen some nice stuff come outta such courses, and at the very least I'd get some really good anatomy understanding.
Past that though... *cringe*
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| Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2002 1:36 am |
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edraket
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| Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2002 3:08 am |
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The illustration major at my school is really good Bang. And they don't try to force you to be a hip graffiti faker/party flyer designer.
The emphasis especially in the beginning is on the conceptual side. What you are saying is always more important than by what means you are saying it. Actually the illustration course I have (And in the first year that is only one since the first year is pretty much a general year) mostly has us do collages and that sort of stuff. Just to have us concentrate on the story we are telling and not the techniques we are using. But later on they do permit you freedom to go in whatever direction you want to go. Given of course that you feel that you can earn cash with it. If for instance you were to say you want to be a fantasy book illustrator I think they would let you do that. But you would have to have a damn good story as to what you think you can add to that genre. Especially since there in NO fantasy industry in holland of course.
The thing with illustration is that it always starts from a determined subject. You are basically just underlining someone elses story. And although there is nothing wrong with that I think I have things of my own that are worth saying. So thats why I said "I just want to do my own thing." I know that sounds kind of childish and escapist but that is really what it comes down to. If I didn't care about that I would have just stayed at the 3d animation company I worked for and taken that managerial position they offered me.
The fine arts major also allows me freedom in the medium I choose. So I will be able to combine painting with filming for instance.
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Yeah..accept for I just have this scholarship for four years of college. I can get paid by the government and work full time on my hobby and try to make it succeed. After that I will likely get a "beginning artist" grant for another four years so that I don't have to starve while I provide our society with art. And after that I am either to a point where I can earn my money with what I love doing or I will have to earn it with something else and do art on the side. Fact is..I will still have had eight years, or at least four, where I can work on my skills full time while still having a roof over my head and food on the table. Would you turn down a chance like that?
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| Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2002 6:41 pm |
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| Try not to suck. But then again a fine artist never sucks |
Agreed. A fine artist never sucks, a bad artist sucks. (get it ?)
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| Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2002 7:23 pm |
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Yeah..accept for I just have this scholarship for four years of college. I can get paid by the government and work full time on my hobby and try to make it succeed. After that I will likely get a "beginning artist" grant for another four years so that I don't have to starve while I provide our society with art. And after that I am either to a point where I can earn my money with what I love doing or I will have to earn it with something else and do art on the side. Fact is..I will still have had eight years, or at least four, where I can work on my skills full time while still having a roof over my head and food on the table. Would you turn down a chance like that?
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Whoa, that sounds AWESOME!! What a nice government! |
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edraket
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| Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2002 2:10 am |
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Hehehe...Hooray for the dutch socialistic system!!!
I'll tell you an even better one. My wife..who is american has the same government funding now. Hehehe (although she has had to wait three years to get that..fair is fair)
Not that you get rich from it. Actually to live comfortably you will need to work on the side a bit and/or not mind about shopping at thriftstores. I think thats a small price to pay though |
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