[geoman2k]

hey guys
i've been messing around with painter lately, and i've been having a lot of trouble just getting a pencil to work. the pencil brushes that it comes with are shitty.... there is very little gradation, and they turn black very easily. i need a pencil that will start out light grey, and gradually darken as i add layers. i've tried doing this with the brush creater, but i don't know exactly what to change, and even if i get it right in the sample window it isn't the same on the canvas. which reminds me- how do i turn off paper texture? i just want a normal smooth surface, because the textures fuck with my work too much.

any help would be appretiated
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[Lunatique]

I tweaked the cover pencil, and it's pretty close to a real pencil.

[Smurf]

I use the 2B pencil
Size:2.6
Opacity:18%
Grain:76%
Restat11%
Bleed:18%
Jitter:0.0

Works pretty good for me. Somone posted this on eatpoo, im too lazy to pull up the thread right now.
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[geoman2k]

thanks for the help guys... i'm using the settings that smurf recommended, and it is exactly what i was looking for. thanks
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[Chthonic Divinity]

do you still use Gel like painter always trys making on a new layer? or the dafault like when your drawing directly on the canvas layer?

[Lunatique]

Here's the setting for my cover pencil:

Rob's Cover Pencil:

Cover Pencil
Size: 2.5
Opacity: 25%
Grain: 60%
Resat: 50%
Bleed: 15%
Jitter: 0

You can set the size expression to Tilt if you want to use the sides of the pencil to do broad strokes. I keep it on Pressure mostly.

My settings are probably the most realistic pencil I've ever come across.

[JkooXL]

In Painter 8, I use the Conte, Dull Conte 15

size 1.2
opacity 32%
grain 12%
resat 100%
bleed 0%
jitter 0%

It works just like a hard pencil for me, I use it all the time, works very well.