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Bobuke
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Can you read her eyes? What story do they tell?
C&c�s welcome!
mousework/ no reference
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2003 11:03 pm |
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she's been smoking weed?
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nice work bobuke. her nose is too big though. it's funny how people draw faces with strong similarities to their own face, when using no ref(this looks a bit like your self portraits i think)
can't read her eyes, but she's prolly been to a party
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Bobuke
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 3:05 am |
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| geoman2k wrote: |
| she's been smoking weed? |
No...  But I�m glad you told me, cause I havn�t the experience to see that.
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nice work bobuke. her nose is too big though. it's funny how people draw faces with strong similarities to their own face, when using no ref(this looks a bit like your self portraits i think)
can't read her eyes, but she's prolly been to a party |
Funny that�s exactly what my son told me. Yes, I also thought that it was to big when I started to rework it - and the mouth was to small and her eyes was far to high situated. So I tried to change her look all over...
That�s the freedom you can offer yourself when you have no model! 
Well can you read her eyes now? What does she have in mind?? 
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 3:33 am |
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| the repainted one looks better Bobuke, thu the lightings still a bit flat to me, some more indication/definition in bg would help i think? anyway, i really dig her expression, like waiting for the three big words |
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Bobuke
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 3:45 am |
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Thnxs all for helping me, I really appreciate it!
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| the repainted one looks better Bobuke, thu the lightings still a bit flat to me, some more indication/definition in bg would help i think? anyway, i really dig her expression, like waiting for the three big words |
I�m interested in how you think I can change the lighting to make it look less flat...
...and bg means background I suppose so I will try to work with a sensitive eye hope you will go on helping me all
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wasssup
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 4:27 am |
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Bobuke your welcome.
i dont think you should CHANGE THE LIGHTING, instead, to understand how lighting works is the way to follow. most important, lighting casts SHADOW, its the most effective way to indicate where the light source is and how impacted areas receive/reflect lights.
yes your right(bg which by means background), supposed the woman is in a room or wherever and light comes from front, when her face receives that strong light things behind should be illuminated too, maybe a bit blurry(coz of the focus) but at least they could be seen, and i think that helps add depth to the picture.
hm, i really love her smile  |
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Bobuke
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 1:50 pm |
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| wasssup wrote: |
| ...supposed the woman is in a room or wherever and light comes from front, when her face receives that strong light things behind should be illuminated too, maybe a bit blurry(coz of the focus) but at least they could be seen, and i think that helps add depth to the picture. |
...so I�ve tried to rework it again. ...the bg you know
I also put an extra layer on and tried to change the light and shadows to make it look less flat. But even though I can say when the lighting is good in other peoples pictures it is so hard making it right in my own when I have no reference.
...so I took it away again, it only looked dirty and overelaborated.
If you haven�t got tired I should be happy to hear your opinion again, please!
P.S. I�ve seen many good pictures by you in "The Speed painting thread" and I�ve noticed your skills according to light and shadows so I am flattered to get your help.
The picture with three man in a room is one example, man and women in bathing-robs is really adorable with its warm light that really works. I�m also impressed to see someone who is able to express himself in a really free way where everything isn�t said and done - something left for the viewer, if you get what I mean. You are good at samurais as well - really beutiful pictures!
I�ve been told not to comment without posting in theese special threads and as I am to timid to dare posting my speedy ones I will have to give you my compliments here instead.
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dear Bobuke,thanks for the compliments,im always highly motivated when hearing comments like that just one thing i have to correct: the *man-and-woman-in-bathrobe* pic you mentioned, they are actually two characters from STREET FIGHTER series, maybe the most successful action/fighting game ever. both characters are MEN, and the bathrobe-like clothing is actually JUDOGI
well, i never expect any lady digs such a violent action game, so its totally acceptable that you dont know them and i dont think you need to, eh...just ignore my crap above.
ok, lets get to the point, i tried to directly paint your picture over,but as you said,those overlaid messy brushes looked too overpainted and showed no quality. so i decided to do a new sample based on you original one which you are seeing here. i did change the lighting a little, that could be considered as a trick: LET LIGHTS COME FROM SIDES/BEHIND. of course it doesnt always works, but mostly. you can then easily see shadows/glowing edges, that makes the pic more dramatic. i didnt do much to the background,just put whatever things in behind to arrange the composition a little, but my tip is: dont let them get too much attention.
since i hate typing and my English really sucks,better let the pic speak for me
im just a puppy in this forum and there are some extremely talented artists around here who definitely can answer you question much more better. hope i dont mislead you too much:p |
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Bobuke
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| Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 11:05 pm |
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| wasssup wrote: |
...just one thing i have to correct: the *man-and-woman-in-bathrobe* pic you mentioned, they are actually two characters from STREET FIGHTER series, maybe the most successful action/fighting game ever. both characters are MEN, and the bathrobe-like clothing is actually JUDOGI ...well, i never expect any lady digs such a violent action game, so its totally acceptable that you dont know them and i dont think you need to, eh...just ignore my crap above.
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...I feel ashamed, I have yellow belt in judo so I should relly have read the clothing right!!!  Still it wasn�t "yesterday" I entered that carpet... According to violent action games I can assure you that I�m well aware of "Counter strike", even if you are right about me not digging it:lol: (I have a son who digs it that�s wy!)
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| ok, lets get to the point, i tried to directly paint your picture over,but as you said,those overlaid messy brushes looked too overpainted and showed no quality. so i decided to do a new sample based on you original one which you are seeing here. i did change the lighting a little, that could be considered as a trick: LET LIGHTS COME FROM SIDES/BEHIND. of course it doesnt always works, but mostly. you can then easily see shadows/glowing edges, that makes the pic more dramatic. i didnt do much to the background,just put whatever things in behind to arrange the composition a little, but my tip is: dont let them get too much attention. |
Thnxs, wasssup! I feel honored to see my picture overpainted by you and it really helps me to go on. My next step will be to try your way of painting...It really looks fresh that way! You are welcome to see that in a while...
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| im just a puppy in this forum and there are some extremely talented artists around here who definitely can answer you question much more better. hope i dont mislead you too much:p |
That�s what makes this forum so charming! A lot of people with different talents, painting a great variety of motives and the chance to get your own pictures commented by some of them. you are not supposed to start painting like any other fellow here - the point is, I think, to progress your own personal picturelanguage and it�s fascinating to get so many influences!
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Bobuke
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 5:26 am |
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...no "wassup", I give up for this time! ...but not for ever I will try again!
I always end up working to long with my pictures, perhaps I have to force myself to use
the Speed Painting Thread for a while.
...well this is my try for today after a cloose look at your overpainting...
...and my final one from yesterday that I didn�t dare to post when I had seen your overpainting,
at least not without trying your style first
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