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Jimmyjimjim
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Just got back from a screening of the new Appleseed flick. I was curious of what others felt about the animation technique. Cell-shading is nothing new of course, but this is the first time I've seen a feature done with the technique (I have not seen Spongebob yet).
Did anyone else feel that the characters appeared too shiny? Nothing felt like it had a different material. Even the clothes on a character had the same kind of sheen as skin. It was as if the movie couldn't decide if it wanted to be CG, live action, or 2d animation- nothing fit together.
Story-wise, it was exactly what you'd expect from any modern anime. There were the typical twists, turns, apparent betrayals and redemptions.
Overall-
Design- A-
Story- B
Animation- C
What did everyone else think? |
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Lunatique
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| Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 6:10 am |
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| I'm dying to see it, but from the clips I've seen (IGN has 4 exclusive clips), I'm not too optimistic. The original manga changed my life (I got into the comic book industry because of it). |
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balistic
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| Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:18 am |
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Very cool action sequences, laughably silly dialogue and plot.
It effectively proves that cel shading characters is fultile because a shader can't be programmed with aesthetics.
Still, worth seeing for all the giant minigun fights.
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Impaler
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| Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 3:34 pm |
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You guys have no idea what sort of anger I'm feeling towards you just for living in slightly bigger cities than I do. In terms of movie distribution, Albuquerque is just slightly behind Fallujah, Iraq.
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Lunatique
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| Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:46 pm |
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| balistic wrote: |
Very cool action sequences, laughably silly dialogue and plot.
It effectively proves that cel shading characters is fultile because a shader can't be programmed with aesthetics.
Still, worth seeing for all the giant minigun fights. |
That's what I was afraid of. Man that sucks. One thing I can't understand is why Shirow has to be so damn hands-off with all the anime/film adaptations of his work. If he just put his current hentai- infested manga shit aside for a while and make sure these anime/film versions of his works are up to par, we wouldn't have to be disappinted everytime a Shirow creation hits the screens. I mean, the one time he got involved and wrote/co-directed something (Black Magic M-66), it fawking ROCKED. |
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Impaler
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| Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 11:49 am |
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What are you talking about? I thought GITS2:Innocence was awesome. The first one had some great moments too.
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Lunatique
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| Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 12:09 pm |
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| Impaler wrote: |
| What are you talking about? I thought GITS2:Innocence was awesome. The first one had some great moments too. |
Yeah, and only hardcore Shirow fans stayed awake watching those films.  |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 12:20 pm |
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Hey now.
In all fairness, I'm a Mamoru Oshii fanboy.
Shirow just reminds me of one of those guys who makes up ridiculously complex excuses for totally excusable human foibles. It's alright if the guy wants to draw boobs all day long, but he does it for the silliest reasons.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 12:44 pm |
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I agree with balistic's comment on Appleseed, action was very cool, but the story was nothing intersting at all. Anyway I wasn't expeting anything particular because I didn't red the comics  so I really enjoyed the movie for what it was.
About GTIS2, I'm still trying to get what the hell they where talking about during 75% of the movie??!?  Maybe I should ask the Architect from the Matrix about it |
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Lunatique
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| Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:53 pm |
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| Lunatique wrote: |
If he just put his current hentai-infested manga shit aside for a while. |
I agree about Shirow, that's why I said the above comment. He didn't used to be like that though. I think his descent into gratuitous excess was a gradual one. In the earlier works, he'd sometimes have female characters wearing sexy outfits/underwear, and it was kind of nice fan-service stuff, since it was fitting for the scenes. Then with each new series, it just got worse and worse. When GITS 2 manga came out, I just couldn't believe my eyes--I thought he had completely lost his mind. The only thing I could think of was, "How long has it been since this guy got laid?"
I have mixed feelings about Oshii. I kinda liked his Patlobor stuff. I kinda liked GITS 1. But man I hated Avalon. GITS 2 was bordering on being a bit too low-key. It didn't feel like Shirow's universe anymore. Oshii feels a bit like a one-trick-poney to me--all his stuff feels the same. I almost would rather have Rin Taro do the GITS movies instead, even though Metropolis didn't do anything for me either (but I'm a huge fan of his Dagger of Kamui). Otomo would be a great fit for the GITS movies too, except I think he'd rather direct his own creations.
If there's one director that I think could've really done it better than any of those guys, it probably would've been Hiroyuki Yamaga. A Wing of Honneamise is one of the best anime features ever, and I think artistically far superior to anything Oshii's ever directed. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:49 pm |
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Hey!
Tentacle Rape 4 life! |
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balistic
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| Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:49 am |
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Hehehe . . . I've watched Shirow's descent into hentai like a tortuously slow-motion car wreck. The first time I saw the pages they edited out of the US GITS books I knew something was amiss, and it's been all downhill from there.
This guy is a fat nerd sitting in a well-appointed basement on a hundred-acre spider farm drawing six-titted robot goat women and filling his panel gutters with useless facts about imaginary firearms.
His technological ideas are often kind of neat-looking (spider robots, et cetera), but man . . . I don't think I'd want to meet this cat in real life.
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