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Tinusch
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 2:17 pm     Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 2:26 pm     Reply with quote
I like the tits. Nice work
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 3:12 pm     Reply with quote
Just one question: Are you trying to go more realistic, or surrealistic with this piece. I just bring this up due to errors in the anatomy that could possibly be deliberate.

Maybe a quick word on the piece would help.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 3:18 pm     Reply with quote
seth: Thanks, I do too

faeklone: No intentional distortions... I didn't use any ref though. Something off around the midsection I think
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 4:09 pm     Reply with quote
Anatomical Mistakes I can see:

The forehead is a bit too big, and the receding hairline thing on the forehead highlight......... Connection of hair to head on by the ear is good, just not getting as much of a connection on the forehead. Big chin and lawline should end where the end of that line (where you defined the hair) is. speaking of which, her hair is coming off of her neck rather than her head. Neck muscles........ the two main muscles (and I think the veins and arterys go up along the same path) of the neck go from the point at the back of the jaw (end of hairline again) to the ends of either Collarbone.

She has no wrist of which to speak, but it's attached to a massive hand. I think the hand is as big as the forearm.

The breasts (boobies) seem to be out of alignment. Yes they're big, but the one side is sitting like it's a fake breast (left) and the other one is sitting more natural.... And the area between breast, shoulder, and arm is more blurred together rather than actually defined. The right breast has bad shading. The left one is actually working, secondary lihgt filling in the underside, dark band between the two, dark in the true shadow under the breast. The connection to the chest on the right hand one is a little odd. The rib cage that it's connecting to isn't flat, and yet the attachment ot the ribs in your picture makes it look flat.

The torso........ To tell yo the truth, the right side is done great. What's happening though is that it looks like you cut her off as soon as you hit the abs on the left hand side. It looks like her torso is missing on that side. Just a reminder for your with that side: the muscle from her shoulder, down her back to her rib cage means that you have alot of space to work with there.

last ly figure out what her legs and hips are doing. The hips look square to the viewer, one leg is missing, and the other looks like it's trying to be part of a hip and a leg at the same time.

You may also want to tone down the highlights on her face and upper body. If you look at the stomach, it's working really well. The white highlights make her look like she's plastic. And if you're going realistic, a bit more work on the cloth she's holding would be reccomended.

I love the hair, and these things do make me look for a second, which is why I was asking if it's deliberate. If it was then they would be okay, the picture doesn't need to make sence in that respect. If you're going realistic however, take the above point to heart, and as always use the ones that work for you.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 2:37 am     Reply with quote
Hey Tinusch, I'd recommend you to use reference for such an complicated pose. Really a hard task to do that from mind. Whereas the composition and general feeling (of heat) really works the girl itself distracts a little because of the mistakes which were mentioned above. Keep it up!!
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:46 pm     Reply with quote
For me the image would be appealing if it wasn't for the girl. I know it sounds harsh, sorry, but there is too much off. Also I think it would convey the desert heat theme a bit better if she were more ethereal or illusional looking. Partially transparent and distorting like the heat above a flame. That's just like totally my opinion only though.
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Tinusch
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:13 am     Reply with quote
Thanks everyone for the specifics. Dont know if Ill devote any more time to this, it seems like too huge an overhaul. Definitely need to use reference next time, what scares me most is that the anatomy really doesnt look too off to me, which is a glaring red flag. It was a learning experience anyway, thanks again everyone
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:50 pm     Reply with quote
Or I could try again

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:11 pm     Reply with quote
I actually dont mind the figure all that much. The thing that bugs me is the jawline and ear of the girl.

The ear is positioned far enough back that the face should be a 3/4 angle. bring the ear and the jaw below the ear forward on the face about 1/3 the distance and that would clear up a bunch of head issues.
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:14 pm     Reply with quote
Wow youre totally right, the side of the face and the neck both suggest a 3/4. I can't see any easy way of fixing that, but if I find the motivation I'll get back to work. Thanks for pointing that out
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