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Topic : "WIRED Mag Interviews Ridley Scott on Blade Runner" |
Gort member
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:17 am |
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"It's a classic tale of failure and redemption, the kind of story Hollywood loves to tell.
Fresh off his second successful movie, an up-and-coming director takes a chance on a dark tale of a 21st-century cop who hunts humanlike androids. But he runs over budget, and the financiers take control, forcing him to add a ham-fisted voice-over and an absurdly cheery ending. The public doesn't buy it. The director's masterpiece plays to near-empty theaters, ultimately retreating to the art-house circuit as a cult oddity.
That's where we left Ridley Scott's future-noir epic in 1982. But a funny thing happened over the next 25 years. Blade Runner's audience quietly multiplied. An accidental public showing of a rough-cut work print created surprise demand for a re-release, so in 1992 Scott issued his director's cut. He silenced the narration, axed the ending, and added a twist � a dream sequence suggesting that Rick Deckard, the film's protagonist, is an android, just like those he was hired to dispatch."
Wired Mag's Full Interview and Q/A with Ridley Scott _________________ - Tom Carter
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:30 pm |
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Quite interesting. I haven't read it all, and will listen to it tomorrow, completely. Thansk for sharing! Soooo looking forward to the dvd-set. _________________ CA SB|Flickr |
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:17 pm |
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From which we learn that:
- Works of art sometimes take decades to develop into hits and masterpieces.
- A work of art is a fragile organism, where every small detail can either make it or break it. |
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:42 am |
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Wired is the only 100% commercial and for profit magazine that i still find interesting sometimes.
Thanks for the link Gort.
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And if you take for granted for a moment that, let's say, Deckard is Nexus 7, he probably has an unknown life span and therefore is starting to get awfully human. Gaff, just at the very end, leaves a piece of origami, which is a piece of silver paper you might find in a cigarette packet. And it's of a unicorn, right? So, the unicorn that's used in Deckard's daydream tells me that Deckard wouldn't normally talk about such a thing to anyone. If Gaff knew about that, it's Gaff's message to say, "I've basically read your file, mate." Right? |
always wondered why he did that. _________________ "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity" - Sigmund Freud |
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:54 am |
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Well, it's the answer to the "Is-Deckard-A-Replicant?"-question. He didn't tell anyone, so why does Gaff know about it? Because it's an implanted memory. At least, that's what I always thought about it.
But it's interesting to read the interviewer's reaction on Deckard picking up the origami-unicorn:
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Wired: The look on his face says, "Oh, so Gaff was here, and he let Rachael live." It doesn't say, "Oh my God! Am I a replicant?"
Scott: No? Yeah, but then you � OK. I don't know. Why is he nodding when he looks at this silver unicorn? It's actually echoing in his head when he has that drunken daydream at the piano, he's staring at the pictures that Roy Batty had in his drawer. And he can't fathom why Roy Batty's got all these pictures about. Why? Family, background, that's history. Roy Batty's got no history, so he's fascinated by the past. And he has no future. All those things are in there to tap into if you want it. But Deckard, I'm not going to have a balloon go up. Deckard's look on his face, look at it again now that I've told you what it was about. Deckard, again, it's like he had a suspicion that doing the job he does, reading the files he reads on other replicants, because � remember � he's, as they call them, a blade runner. He's a replicant moderator or even exterminator. And if he's done so many now � and who are the biggest hypochondriacs? Doctors. So, if he's a killer of replicants, he may have wondered at one point, can they fiddle with me? Am I human, or am I a replicant? That's in his innermost thoughts. I'm just giving the fully flushed-out possibility to justify that gleaming look at the end where he kind of glints and kind of looks angry, but it's like, to me, an affirmation. That look confirms something. And he nods, he agrees. "Ah hah, Gaff was here." And he goes for the elevator door. And he is a replicant getting into an elevator with another replicant. |
To me, that smirk was always an affirmation. It always looked like Deckard knew for the time after the "Tears in the rain"-speech and Gaff's speech afterwards that he is a replicant. He picks up Rachel, sees the unicorn and maybe he thinks "Now they're after us!" or maybe "Bring it on, motherfucker!"  _________________ CA SB|Flickr |
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:52 pm |
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I seem to recall Scott had said the opposite in past interviews--that Deckard is NOT a replicant?
Who's going to get the 5-disc set when it's released? I think I'll get the 5-disc set since it's the only version with the working print cut. |
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:06 pm |
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I will be getting the 5 disc set. Huzzah. _________________ - Tom Carter
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:07 am |
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I'm in as well. It's the same as my Massive Attack Best Of Set. More expensive than the rest, but it's worth it. _________________ CA SB|Flickr |
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:39 am |
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There are a couple of reviews (with spoilers) of the final cut here and here. _________________ - Tom Carter
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:42 pm |
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I was agonizing whether to get the 5-disc set in blue-ray, HD, or regular DVD. My 50" plasma only goes up to 768, and I don't own any blue-ray or HD players, and I'm probably not going to get a PS3 or 360 anytime soon, so I guess I'll stick to good ol' DVD for now. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:34 pm |
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i'll definately get the 5-disc set, i love blade runner, loved the pc game as well, can't remember if it was really that good though.. but it didn't matter  |
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:32 am |
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What he says about the importance of a good soundtrack in the interview really is true in regards to this film. It lifts the film to another level.
This movie feels like some art installation almost at times, very beautiful and atmospheric.
Well for me it feels "ok" but Im not especially moved emotionally. Why do guys think it's such a great movie? I mean why do a movie at all if it doesn't move you emotionally? If i want good ideas and intriguing thoughts there are plenty of books out there. So isn't this movie a failure in THAT regard at least? That it misses it's goal to connect with the audience on an emotional level?
If he did the movie with the intention to adress the philosophic sides and an "exciting story" was second why didn't he dwelve even deeper into the philosophy than he does here, and do a completely other angle to get it deeper and clearer to the viewer?
This movie is hyped bad if u ask me, but he does a great job selling the mystique. |
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:30 pm |
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You say it misses "it's goal to connect with the audience on an emotional level" and I think that in combination with "selling the mystique" and "art installation" you've answered your question already. The atmosphere in Blade Runner is so beyond-our-time and imagination that I don't believe anyone who watches it can really understand it. There are three kinds of people regarding this movie. Those who haven't watched it because it's too alternative (and old) to be around, those who don't like it and those who admire everything about the movie. But for those two latter groups who've watched it, there's no one who wasn't touched by the movie's atmosphere, even if they don't like it because they're too confused. That is why Blade Runner is so fascinating. It feels like some sort of weird kaleidoscope of the future. If you ask me, it's more art than movie. And some art can't be interpreted, nor can it be rated (reading reviews of Blade Runner is like reading reviews of completely different movies). _________________ CA SB|Flickr |
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:02 am |
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Yes I totally agree with you that the movie has made a niche for itself with it's absorbing world and that "bladerunner atmosphere" and "artsy" feel. Whether that was the original intention with the movie originally I doubt though. Even so he is a great director that Ridley Scott . |
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:23 am |
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Sure, it's bugged. But tell you what, I don't give a shit because this movie makes me happy every time I watch it  _________________ CA SB|Flickr |
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:09 am |
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I feel the same about predator!  |
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:31 pm |
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Blade Runner is cool. Changed my mind. Don't know what I was bitching about. Trying to convince people in general that a movie they like is shit is such a waste of effort. Especially a movie that gives a spiritual experience like blade runner truly does. |
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:27 pm |
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By the way I did get the full 5 disc set, and it's awesome. The documentary disc is in itself well worth it - flat out fantastic! _________________ - Tom Carter
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:36 pm |
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Got the 5-disc set over Christmas, but just now watched the workprint. It was suprising how different a couple extra seconds of footage here and there can make the film. Like adding an extra beat to a familiar song.
I've been a huge fan of Blade Runner since 89, when I saw it on TV. There was a period that I watched it nearly EVERY DAY, no exaggeration. |
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:50 am |
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Well, it's the best movie ever filmed, what would you expect? _________________ CA SB|Flickr |
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:10 am |
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Jabo wrote: |
Well, it's the best movie ever filmed, what would you expect? |
Is that including Bollywood or not? |
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:29 pm |
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It's including everything, Sir! _________________ CA SB|Flickr |
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:19 pm |
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For me it's one of the best science fiction movies. The flying sequences and the music by Vangelis is awesome. Saw the movie Le grand blue (spelling?) from Luc Besson a while ago. Beautiful soundtrack especially in the first scenes in black and white in the beginning of the movie. Eric Serra the composer, WOW. Raising the barn scene in Witness with harrison ford, also deserves a little WOW when I'm mentioning soundtracks.  |
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:06 pm |
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One characteristic that always impressed me was the composition and shot staging; I've seen the film maybe 7 times, and I see something different everytime. It's my opinion that the film is timeless; it looks as good and fresh as it did 25 years ago.
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion" _________________ - Tom Carter
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:30 am |
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you crazy, man _________________ - Tom Carter
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