[Bare Bonez]

Hello, I'm pretty new here, so I'll give a short intro. I use to draw tons of ansi under the same handle for a bunch of art groups. Then ansi sort of died. I started trying to draw realistically, but it was quite difficult. Anyway, lots of people have helped me along the way and pushed me to keep on trying to draw. The following drawing is my first full scale project work. Everything else I've done is pretty much crap, so I'm kind of proud of this one.

I was wondering if I could get some suggestions. I wanted to know if everything looks anatomically correct, if I have the perspective ok. I mostly need help and suggestions on the landscape. I haven't practiced drawing rock formations. Does anyone have tips to draw rocks and lava pools?

Anyway, I think the concept of the picture is pretty simple. Thank you in advance for you help and hopefully, I'll be able to paint this thing and post it up some day in the future.



As a note: this is a scaled down version.

Thanks

-Bare Bonez

[Nex]

Hmm.. the anatomy is not right at least for the face (forgive me but for an angel she is really ugly - face wise)

You tend to put the eyes too high and make the nose too big.

Then she's got enormous knees and very big .. upper legs (especially the legs biceps is very big)I don't know what the hell they call it in english..

The wings look a bit strange (seem to have no perspective)

The pose of the angel could be a bit more dynamic (its hard, I know).

maybe try some anatomy books to get you started.. just a medicine anatomy book will not do i think.

Maybe buy a copy of "poser" to help you out with some anatomy questions, its really great for that.

Cya

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- Nex

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[This message has been edited by Nex (edited July 08, 2000).]

[Bare Bonez]

Thanks Nex,

I see what you mean about the eyes issue. I guess I should lower them a bit more and shrink both the size of the eyes and nose.

When I look at the wings, they doo kind of look odd and it doesn't seem to fit the perspective of things.

The whole thunder thighs business, I'll clean that up.

As for dynamic pose, what do you mean by that? Does that mean draw things from a different perspective or draw the way the body is - more movement and energy?

As for faces, I have a hard time for getting them to look nice, can you give me some pointers on that? At the angle of the head, I found it difficult to make the eyes appear oval. How would you make the facial features look realistic and nicer?

Thanks for you insight.

-Bare Bonez

[Nex]

I'll see if I can draw something to show you what I mean with a more energetic pose, but i am not really good at that. I recommend the book "How to draw comics the marvel way" for that.. its quite good for such things.

So give me some time and I will post something here soon to show you.

Cya

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- Nex

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[Cos]

This is reminding me of Tim Vigils stuff on Broken Halo. check out the link, I'm sure you will find it inspirational for this piece.
http://www.brokenhalos.com/mainvault.html

Also maybe check out Satanika by Verotika comics too.

Its looking great so far Bare Bonez, the forearms don't look like they are connected to the arms tho, specially the right, think it's too low, maybe have a look at that.

Good luck with it!

[psi burn]

bare, another problem with the image is you made everything seem to frail. try to give the angel a more grand or superior look to it.

[Shadow-X-]

Great idea, I like it. I just have one critique to add to the other ones that people have posted. The way the wings bend isnt correct. I mean the joint where it goes up, and bends back down. Usually birds have two bones there, if you get what I am saying.. I dunno how to say it though. It just looks odd. Now, I give you permission to bash the hell outta my pics!!

[Jabberwocky]

Here are some pictures that might help you with poster and anatomy hope they might help: http://www.glassonion.com/gallery/archive/authors/williams/mobg/mobg.jpg http://www.glassonion.com/gallery/archive/authors/lee/delerium.jpg http://www.glassonion.com/gallery/archive/qtoz/stormq.jpg

For your demon: http://www.glassonion.com/gallery/archive/atoh/allmy.jpg

If you can get ahold of Spawn's Angela comic book it background looks similar to what you are trying for.

These are Michael Whelan's pictures... I love his work.

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[Bare Bonez]

I tried fixing this up and here's what turned out. I tried to change the positioning of the hands, but it looks a little odd to me. Could anyone help me with the hands? Also I worked on the wings a bit, but I'm also having difficulty trying to make them appear curved. It looks a little flat to me.

I also did some minor adjustments - fixed the face a bit, tried to remove the thunder thighs and stuff like that.

Thanks for all your help. I hope this turns out good. By the way, does anyone know of an easy to remove all the smudges by the pencil?



-bonez.

[Worthy]

2 thoughts. 1-I think the forearms look a bit short. If you bend your own arm, your fist reaches basically to your shoulder. In your first image, it didnt look correct, and in this one, I think it could also be lengthened.
2-to erase smudges..I find the easiest way is to get an eraser shield. They should be really cheap and available at most art stores. They are flat silver items about the size of a credit card with various shaped punchouts. to use, simply move it and erase within the punchout-hole..and that way you dont erase the parts of the drawing you want to keep.
One tip: they are kinda hard to pickup and move around so I added a whole bunch of round stickers on top of each other to make a mini handle..works really well.

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[Bare Bonez]

I started painting the picture, but I'm not so good at it. I need some tips to make the face more realistic and not so ugly. Can anyone give me some valid tips on how to make this look better? I think the shadows are off or something like that. Anyway, thanks.



-bonez


[This message has been edited by Bare Bonez (edited July 13, 2000).]

[Tinusch]

Her eyes are shaped weird... That might be what's making her look ugly.

[ex]

If you care to value my opinion.. here it is:

I think that the image is dark, the whole... (for lack of better word) image (?) and the idea of it is (to me) dark. And i think you should choose your colours more carefully.

[Shadow-X-]

I like the new wings a lot! Great work. And about the photo being dark, I think it would be great, from my newbie art skills from taking art class for the first time since grade 8 (I just finished gr 11 art), the angel should be light, and the background obviously dark, and black or dark red as the main colour. It would show a great emphasis on the importance of the angel, if a little meaning is behind your picture is a factor. Just my 2 bananas...